Juniors kvelling thread

[masterchief]

Nah nah dont get the wrong idea, i wasnt complaining about my coach i was complaining about my fitness...he thinks we should have won by more but he thinks the reason we didnt is because we were tired (which he is probably right).


Fair enough.

[The Space Cowboy]

Nah nah dont get the wrong idea, i wasnt complaining about my coach i was complaining about my fitness...he thinks we should have won by more but he thinks the reason we didnt is because we were tired (which he is probably right).

ooh, trouble at Doncaster.;)

I from a mate at South that they have been training once a day and sometimes even twice at BJS. They have been being coached by the PSG youth academy coach after they went to the PSG youth academy last year.

Box Hill's got Green Gully away on Sunday.

[Lizzy]

Nah nah dont get the wrong idea, i wasnt complaining about my coach i was complaining about my fitness...he thinks we should have won by more but he thinks the reason we didnt is because we were tired (which he is probably right).

Heaven help our kids with Coaches who think they will improve their players this way. :tsk:

Perhaps working on your ball skills, team work, set pieces, tactics etc would help you win by more too.

Running you like greyhounds for 100 minutes isn't going to develop you as players.

And Masterchief, hopefully you will discover on your current coaching course that a good junior coach can work a player physically just as hard with ball work and small game play.

[The Space Cowboy]

the best way to do to fitness training is to do it involving a ball. Like do ladders and hurldes and once you've just got out of the ladders you get a coule of touches on the ball.

[Rizzo]

the best way to do to fitness training is to do it involving a ball. Like do ladders and hurldes and once you've just got out of the ladders you get a coule of touches on the ball.

we did that...i think it is good that he is getting us fit because our team is really good this season and im confident we can finish top 3...my main concern is the same as the coaches, our teams overall fitness, we played to 30 minute halfs on sunday and i can tell you, our players were struggling in the last 5-10 minutes...we have great potential in this team, i will keep you updated throughout every game I play (inc. practice game/season/cup/reserve)

[cestaz]

we did that...i think it is good that he is getting us fit because our team is really good this season and im confident we can finish top 3...my main concern is the same as the coaches, our teams overall fitness, we played to 30 minute halfs on sunday and i can tell you, our players were struggling in the last 5-10 minutes...we have great potential in this team, i will keep you updated throughout every game I play (inc. practice game/season/cup/reserve)
Is Fam still at Doncaster these days? He's great with ballwork and explosive fitness stuff.

[masterchief]

Heaven help our kids with Coaches who think they will improve their players this way. :tsk:

Perhaps working on your ball skills, team work, set pieces, tactics etc would help you win by more too.

Running you like greyhounds for 100 minutes isn't going to develop you as players.

And Masterchief, hopefully you will discover on your current coaching course that a good junior coach can work a player physically just as hard with ball work and small game play.

Already knew that. I don't believe in laps or sprints. I did discover how much running is involved in a possesion game :eek: Never really noticed as a player but I think it's an awesome pre-season drill/game.

[Rizzo]

Is Fam still at Doncaster these days? He's great with ballwork and explosive fitness stuff.

what age group? seniors?

[in_da_know69]

Can one of the Box Hill lads tell us about their game on the weekend. Apparently they were beaten 2-1?

[masterchief]

Can one of the Box Hill lads tell us about their game on the weekend. Apparently they were beaten 2-1?

:eek: No way?

[in_da_know69]

Apparently they were physically dominated in the game also Masterchief!

[masterchief]

Apparently they were physically dominated in the game also Masterchief!

:eek: What is Victorian football coming to when Box Hill Inter and physically dominated and BEATEN!?!?! :eek:

[Rizzo]

are you guys being serious? Box Hill Inter arent that good!

[in_da_know69]

are you guys being serious? Box Hill Inter arent that good!

It was more a p1ss take Rizzo.

Coz they got beat by my lads :horn:

Would love to play your mob again Rizzo - ask Micky

[masterchief]

are you guys being serious? Box Hill Inter arent that good!

:lol:

[masterchief]

Just came back from training the U12s. I'm trying to think of an incentive to get my players to fucking spread OUT! We're playing a possesion game and all you see (at 12 years old) is a flock of players chasing the ball.

We played a match against another, more established team from the club for 30 mins and I sorted the boys into positions and they seemed to be doing well. We lost 2-1 due to two defensive errors from the same player so next week I'm going to show him what he did wrong and how he can fix it.

[Rizzo]

It was more a p1ss take Rizzo.

Coz they got beat by my lads :horn:

Would love to play your mob again Rizzo - ask Micky

yeah i would man but we got Keilor Park this weekend then Richmond the weekend after and then the season starts, he wont let us.

[in_da_know69]

No probs Rizzo.

Good luck for the season lad - hope you do well and score some goals.

Masterchief - I coach Under 12's also, did you want a practice game next Sunday?

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[cestaz]

what age group? seniors?
I can't remember what group he coached, but he went around different teams sometimes and did a few plyometric-like exercises, mostly with the ball but also did exercises with ladders and short hurdles.

[masterchief]

No probs Rizzo.

Good luck for the season lad - hope you do well and score some goals.

Masterchief - I coach Under 12's also, did you want a practice game next Sunday?

We only have 9 players.

[Carlton life member]

We only have 9 players.

for sunday? or in general?

[masterchief]

for sunday? or in general?

In general unfortunately. I really would like another Center-back and another central midfielder. Maybe even a new striker.

[cestaz]

In general unfortunately. I really would like another Center-back and another central midfielder. Maybe even a new striker.
I too only have nine players at the moment...

[masterchief]

I too only have nine players at the moment...

It really is a problem. Which club are you coaching and how old are your kids?

[cestaz]

It really is a problem. Which club are you coaching and how old are your kids?
U16 Girls, south-eastern suburbia

[brendo51]

ooh, trouble at Doncaster.;)

I from a mate at South that they have been training once a day and sometimes even twice at BJS. They have been being coached by the PSG youth academy coach after they went to the PSG youth academy last year.


This was the youth coach featured on TWG today. Seemed pretty good.

Do we know who paid for him to come out here ?

[Rizzo]

No probs Rizzo.

Good luck for the season lad - hope you do well and score some goals.

Masterchief - I coach Under 12's also, did you want a practice game next Sunday?

thanks mate...all the best for your teams this season, keep pushing em

[Carlton life member]

In general unfortunately. I really would like another Center-back and another central midfielder. Maybe even a new striker.

so you can't field a team?

[Philly09]

We only have 9 players.

our club is having the same problem with our under 13 boys team, we need at least 6 more boys or we will not have a side. only two more weeks to go, not good. we did have a full side but two boys decided to go play AFL and one boy was down on the team sheet twice but with different names ????
and one other paid etc and did not even turn up to training (have rang him every week :tsk: )
i don't want to be the one to tell the rest of the under 13 boys

[masterchief]

so you can't field a team?

not yet.

[masterchief]

our club is having the same problem with our under 13 boys team, we need at least 6 more boys or we will not have a side. only two more weeks to go, not good. we did have a full side but two boys decided to go play AFL and one boy was down on the team sheet twice but with different names ????
and one other paid etc and did not even turn up to training (have rang him every week :tsk: )
i don't want to be the one to tell the rest of the under 13 boys

What club? Maybe a couple of my U12 boys can step up and we can merge if the clubs are close enough.

[Carlton life member]

What club? Maybe a couple of my U12 boys can step up and we can merge if the clubs are close enough.

not likely - I think you are at opposite ends of Melbourne

[masterchief]

not likely - I think you are at opposite ends of Melbourne

Damn :(

[Philly09]

What club? Maybe a couple of my U12 boys can step up and we can merge if the clubs are close enough.

- southern suburbs,

[Carlton life member]

this is a problem generally, isn't it?
there must be so many kids getting sent away from clubs that have 3/4 of a team

there should be better co-ordination

[masterchief]

Carrum United - southern suburbs, juniors play at Skye (Carrum Downs)

CLM was right. I'm at Meadow Park (Gladstone Park, near the Airport)

[masterchief]

this is a problem generally, isn't it?
there must be so many kids getting sent away from clubs that have 3/4 of a team

there should be better co-ordination

We only need 3 or 4 more players but yeah it seems to be a problem. God I hate AFL :mad:

[Carlton life member]

We only need 3 or 4 more players but yeah it seems to be a problem. God I hate AFL :mad:

so are you planning a recruiting drive?

[Lizzy]

I really don't understand Clubs that send in TEAM ENTRY forms to the FFV before they have a minimum 12 registered/paid players for each team. These decisions should be made by the end of March. Poor administration IMO.
If decisions are made early enough then families can look elsewhere for a team place or 2 half full teams can be merged to make one.

[Philly09]

I really don't understand Clubs that send in TEAM ENTRY forms to the FFV before they have a minimum 12 registered/paid players for each team. These decisions should be made by the end of March. Poor administration IMO.
If decisions are made early enough then families can look elsewhere for a team place or 2 half full teams can be merged to make one.

as i did say we had a team of 14 boys for the under 13's and all paid for :)
sometimes it does not go the way we want it to and most clubs do not want to merge - thats life. my god it is sooo easy for parents to blame it on the admin at the club isn't it lol

[AVFC88]

as i did say we had a team of 14 boys for the under 13's and all paid for :)
sometimes it does not go the way we want it to and most clubs do not want to merge - thats life. my god it is sooo easy for parents to blame it on the admin at the club isn't it lol

So 14 kids paid their fee's, say $200 ish, and then decided to up and leave before season starts?

I find this very hard to believe. And if it is, dont know why you are complaining. Your club has made some $$$ :)

Football is booming, i dont understand how you are failing to attract players. Recruitment drives @ local primary schools, advertising in local papers, advertising on FFV website. Plenrty of avenues to attract players. Most clubs i know are turning players away coz they simply cant meet the demand.

[Philly09]

So 14 kids paid their fee's, say $200 ish, and then decided to up and leave before season starts?

I find this very hard to believe. And if it is, dont know why you are complaining. Your club has made some $$$ :)

Football is booming, i dont understand how you are failing to attract players. Recruitment drives @ local primary schools, advertising in local papers, advertising on FFV website. Plenrty of avenues to attract players. Most clubs i know are turning players away coz they simply cant meet the demand.

lol, because we give most of the money back, sorry but we are not a money hungry club and i am pretty sure the club had not registered then with FFV yet.
and i really don't give a shit if you believe it or not, my god why the hell would i write it.
also last year we got four more junior teams (two girls) and this year two more on top of that (not including the under 13 boys)
well if most clubs you know are turning players away please let me know the clubs so i can ring them !!!!! :)

[Lizzy]

as i did say we had a team of 14 boys for the under 13's and all paid for :)
sometimes it does not go the way we want it to and most clubs do not want to merge - thats life. my god it is sooo easy for parents to blame it on the admin at the club isn't it lol

Calm down dear - I'm not referring specifically to your U13's. I'm sure you have your own unique reasons for the problem and believe me I sympathise. However there's a constant problem with this situation all over Melbourne every season. And a common reason for it is clubs entering teams with less than 12 and hoping they will pick up more kids by the time the season comes along. Inevitably they don't, and multiple numbers of leagues get stuffed up with late withdrawals to fixtures. By the way, I was a Club Secretary for 5 years so I have a fair idea when to blame admin. Equally I could write a page on how obstructive and unhelpful parents prevent clubs from operating properly. But I definately believe that clubs that are run well administratively rarely have this problem.

PS, My merge comment was not about clubs merging, rather - teams within a club. (eg, the club can merge half an U11 and half an U12 rather than ditching 2 teams).

[Philly09]

Calm down dear - I'm not referring specifically to your U13's. I'm sure you have your own unique reasons for the problem and believe me I sympathise. However there's a constant problem with this situation all over Melbourne every season. And a common reason for it is clubs entering teams with less than 12 and hoping they will pick up more kids by the time the season comes along. Inevitably they don't, and multiple numbers of leagues get stuffed up with late withdrawals to fixtures. By the way, I was a Club Secretary for 5 years so I have a fair idea when to blame admin. Equally I could write a page on how obstructive and unhelpful parents prevent clubs from operating properly. But I definately believe that clubs that are run well administratively rarely have this problem.

PS, My merge comment was not about clubs merging, rather - teams within a club. (eg, the club can merge half an U11 and half an U12 rather than ditching 2 teams).

Yep we tried that and then it made the Under 12 boys team a bit short on players and the Under 14 boys alreally have 17 players :(
oh well i could always say - not my problem - (as it is not one of the teams i am looking after) but thats not me.
hoping to have two more boys this week, then we only need two more really after that.

[Lizzy]

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Yep we tried that and then it made the Under 12 boys team a bit short on players and the Under 14 boys alreally have 17 players :(
oh well i could always say - not my problem - (as it is not one of the teams i am looking after) but thats not me.
hoping to have two more boys this week, then we only need two more really after that.

Well good luck with it anyway! It's always hardest on the kids.
I assume you've tried a notice in all the local school newsletters?

[Philly09]

Well good luck with it anyway! It's always hardest on the kids.
I assume you've tried a notice in all the local school newsletters?

;) yes

[diggga]

I have a son and daughter at Brunswick City, and a daughter at Pascoe Vale.

PVale is only setting up juniors this year, but wants to be serious about the girls.

City has a nice set up, but is not strong with the girls side.
Zebras are much stronger with the girls - more teams, more age groups, better results.

Yea that's where I used to play, I always remember alot of girls around.

Im having my first training session tommorow, playin with donny, though i've tried once before i'm gonna give it another go with a different team.

[Rizzo]

On sunday at 3 pm.
Keilor Park hosted Doncaster Rovers in a friendly...I was not their and i dont no much about the game but all i no is we had 13 players, our captain and vice captains were not at the game, we didnt have our best team and we played crap.

Keilor Park 4-0 Doncaster Rovers

We are in a lot of trouble Tuesday night, i expect an extremely hard training session.

[masterchief]

This is a little note that I'm handing out to the parents of my team.

Just a little introduction to me, my name’s Ricky Marchioli and I will be in charge of the tactical and technical side of the U12s team this season. I am currently playing at Victorian Premier League club Essendon Royals for the U16s as both a goalkeeper and a Striker (weird mix isn’t it?). I love Football and you will always hear me call the sport Football and not “soccer” which I believe is a term that the Australian nation picked up from the United States but I’d prefer to use the worldwide term. My ambition is to become a Football commentator for the A-League and possibly the World Cup. I’ve already taken a few steps toward that goal. I am currently involved in the production of a Football Radio Show and I completed work experience in Sydney at SBS in February working with recognised TV and Australian Football personalities such as Craig Foster, Andrew Orsatti, David Basheer, Les Murray and current Sydney FC coach Branco Culina. I am in regular contact with most of those guys through e-mail.

My technical and tactical football mind was complemented on more than one occasion by the experts at SBS so I feel I know what I’m talking about. I will attempt to teach your boys to hang onto possession of the ball and play a higher standard of Football than they may or may not have played in the past. I do not believe in mindless running so you will never see the boys running laps or doing sprints, I prefer them to run with a ball at their feet or in a real game situation. 5 versus 5 possession games provide the players with an excellent opportunity to pass the ball around, spread out and play possession football when they have the ball and run around when defending the ball (just ask them how tiring it is to defend in one of those games!) without the pressures of scoring a goal. Most drills will either be focused on quick passing, receiving or dribbling the ball. I promise you will barely ever see a drill where your son does not have a ball at his feet.

What this country lacks is coaches who don’t resort to “long-balls” when under pressure for results. The football is not of a high level and is actually quite boring for you as parents to stand and watch on a chilly Sunday morning. My main philosophy is a nice, patient, short-ball game where players pass it to the first open teammate they see which could lead to beautiful passages of play where these boys string five or more passes together and move forward.

Enough of the technical side, I hope you guys enjoy the year at the club and I hope to meet you all at some stage throughout the season. Oh and one more thing which is VITAL to the success of this style of football. PLEASE parents, I urge you not to tell your son what to do when they’re out on the park as tempting as it may be it will only confuse and frustrate them as has happened to myself in the past. We already have two coaches doing our jobs so just stand back, relax and enjoy the football that your boys will play. From Ricky

[Liam]

My little brothers playing out at Olympic Village tonight for Richmond against Heidelberg u/14s. Not sure if they're playing on the main pitch though, does the one next to it have lights?

[masterchief]

I'm absolutely RAPT with tonight's training session. The boys are starting to understand EXACTLY what I want from them and I'm continuing to set up little games that emphasize the point of spreading out. We've also got enough players for a team and I've got more still coming which is excellent!

The parents were appreciative of that note with information about myself as well which is all good. I'm excited about the Football that my boys are going to play this season because I'm amazed at how much they've improved over the past two weeks since I took over it's quite incredible.

We have one more training session next thursday night before the season begins and I've organised to play the club's U14 girls for 30 mins next week at the end of training which should be good preparation for my team.

It's looking good at the moment.

[Philly09]

I'm absolutely RAPT with tonight's training session. The boys are starting to understand EXACTLY what I want from them and I'm continuing to set up little games that emphasize the point of spreading out. We've also got enough players for a team and I've got more still coming which is excellent!

The parents were appreciative of that note with information about myself as well which is all good. I'm excited about the Football that my boys are going to play this season because I'm amazed at how much they've improved over the past two weeks since I took over it's quite incredible.

We have one more training session next thursday night before the season begins and I've organised to play the club's U14 girls for 30 mins next week at the end of training which should be good preparation for my team.

It's looking good at the moment.


great to hear :bounce:

[oohsean]

I'm absolutely RAPT with tonight's training session. The boys are starting to understand EXACTLY what I want from them and I'm continuing to set up little games that emphasize the point of spreading out. We've also got enough players for a team and I've got more still coming which is excellent!

The parents were appreciative of that note with information about myself as well which is all good. I'm excited about the Football that my boys are going to play this season because I'm amazed at how much they've improved over the past two weeks since I took over it's quite incredible.

We have one more training session next thursday night before the season begins and I've organised to play the club's U14 girls for 30 mins next week at the end of training which should be good preparation for my team.

It's looking good at the moment.
one thing that annoyed me the most when playing outdoor,
your team nails the drill at training, come sunday different players turn up.
lol

[masterchief]

one thing that annoyed me the most when playing outdoor,
your team nails the drill at training, come sunday different players turn up.
lol

That's something I'm going to have to learn to deal with. It's all experience.

BUT a great coach once said to me "How you train is how you will play"

[oohsean]

thats on the money :)

gl with it mate.

[Carlton life member]

I'm absolutely RAPT with tonight's training session. The boys are starting to understand EXACTLY what I want from them and I'm continuing to set up little games that emphasize the point of spreading out. We've also got enough players for a team and I've got more still coming which is excellent!

The parents were appreciative of that note with information about myself as well which is all good. I'm excited about the Football that my boys are going to play this season because I'm amazed at how much they've improved over the past two weeks since I took over it's quite incredible.

We have one more training session next thursday night before the season begins and I've organised to play the club's U14 girls for 30 mins next week at the end of training which should be good preparation for my team.

It's looking good at the moment.

great news Ricky

it is lovely to hear you so excited about it all

giving the parents some insight into you and your plans is a good move - doesn't happen much in my exp
(but I am going to pull you up on your assertion that soccer is an American term - I have started a thread on the subject elsewhere)

[in_da_know69]

This is a little note that I'm handing out to the parents of my team.

That was fukin quality lad.:yo:

[AVFC88]

That was fukin quality lad.:yo:

Perhaps he could teach you a thing or two? ;)

[Marcello Lippi]

Masterchief is a shit coach, trust me.

If you want your reasoning, go see the Kaka vs Ronaldo thread

[Simon]

Crai, err, masterchief - what formation does your team play? :)

[masterchief]

Crai, err, masterchief - what formation does your team play? :)

Not too sure yet, still waiting on a couple of players. I'm thinking a nice, simple 4-4-2 to get the kids started.

[masterchief]

Masterchief is a shit coach, trust me.

If you want your reasoning, go see the Kaka vs Ronaldo thread

Real mature Sam, everyone has their own opinion and mine isn't clouded because I don't support either club.

[masterchief]

Perhaps he could teach you a thing or two? ;)

:lol:

[MVFCMUFC]

Ricky, its the Mourinho overcoat.

[masterchief]

Ricky, its the Mourinho overcoat.

Relax, I haven't worn it yet ;)

[MVFCMUFC]

Relax, I haven't worn it yet ;)

Wear it for match day so they don't go psycho.

;)

Its all in the coat.

[TruBlu]

This is a little note that I'm handing out to the parents of my team.

Absolutely fantastic Ricky.

Great work, with more junior coaches like you, I can see a rosy future for Australian football.

[masterchief]

Absolutely fantastic Ricky.

Great work, with more junior coaches like you, I can see a rosy future for Australian football.

Cheers :thumb:

[Simon]

Not too sure yet, still waiting on a couple of players. I'm thinking a nice, simple 4-4-2 to get the kids started.

Fair enough :thumb:

Good luck with the season.

[diggga]

Good Luck mastercheif. I'd love to be a coach. Put all my football managing expertise of managing huge clubs like Newcastle on the screen to the Under 12's of Brunswick Zebras. Would be an intresting transition to say the least.

[masterchief]

As for my own playing career if anybody is interested I've been called up to play Super League on Sunday at around 5pm at Darebin (ARTIFICIAL PITCH :D)

[masterchief]

Is it a good idea for an U12s team to have a specialised Goalkeeper coach?

[ben0009]

Is it a good idea for an U12s team to have a specialised Goalkeeper coach?

what you need to do (at least to start with) is get someone who knows what they're talking about, for instance the senior keeper or just anyone who used to play there, to come to a couple of training sessions and do some individual coaching to make sure they have the technique right. they'll never learn anything by just having the rest of the players shooting at them in drills.

once they've done that, unless one of the parents really wants to do it, its probably fine for them to join in with everyone else

this is what i did, it seems to work

(IMO)

[masterchief]

what you need to do (at least to start with) is get someone who knows what they're talking about, for instance the senior keeper or just anyone who used to play there, to come to a couple of training sessions and do some individual coaching to make sure they have the technique right. they'll never learn anything by just having the rest of the players shooting at them in drills.

once they've done that, unless one of the parents really wants to do it, its probably fine for them to join in with everyone else

this is what i did, it seems to work

(IMO)

The person I have lined up is a former Goalkeeper. I was thinking that whilst the rets of the boys do passing drills etc he works on his goalkeepeing technique then when we need him in goals chuck him in and maybe have the GK coach behind him just instructing him.

[Rizzo]

Doncaster 4-1 Richmond

We played really well i thought as a team but we just didnt finish off our opertunities...we scored some pearls though...personally i think i played ok, made some good runs, set up 2 goals, just didnt get on the scoresheet which im pretty dissapointed about...i came up really sore today though, my hammys and calfs are tight.

[masterchief]

Doncaster 4-1 Richmond

We played really well i thought as a team but we just didnt finish off our opertunities...we scored some pearls though...personally i think i played ok, made some good runs, set up 2 goals, just didnt get on the scoresheet which im pretty dissapointed about...i came up really sore today though, my hammys and calfs are tight.

I bet your coach didn't make you warm-down after the game.

Those muscles are going to hurt tommorow unless you put some ice on them.

I have two games this weekend, one now in like an hour and one tommorow at Darebin.

[scoott56]

i've been wearing skins to my games and they really help with the soreness

[Carlton life member]

two of mine played today

the boy had a shocker of a day
lost 7-2 in field,
the first one was his mistake, and after the second the team fell apart
there was a penalty each, and he almost saved his - saved it, but did not manage to hang on to it, and none of the defenders came in to help, so the penalty taker put it in on the rebound
that is pretty good for a 12 yo really, cos the goals are much bigger than they are

then got a massive 12 goal thumping in futsal


the girl finally got to play in a friendly
after being stuffed around for weeks by all and sundry
they went ok with a 1-1
though she missed a sitter
some of the girls have never played a game before

[arabdownunder]

Is it a good idea for an U12s team to have a specialised Goalkeeper coach?

Goalkeeping is tricky at that age. My advice is:

U12 is too young to pigeonhole a kid as only a GK so they should join in most of the training with the whole squad. In the modern game the keeper acts as an extra sweeper so should have the basic outfield skills. It also helps the keeper to feel part of the team.

If your club has other teams you could run occasional joint GK sessions for keepers from a number of age groups.

The other thing I have done is devote an entire training session for the whole squad to goal-keeping. (probably better for a younger age group)

[Carlton life member]

The other thing I have done is devote an entire training session for the whole squad to goal-keeping. (probably better for a younger age group)

I esp like that idea.

Younger players can have little sympathy for the goalie - they tend to blame him when a goal goes in.
If they all have a bit of insight, they may be more supportive, both emotionally and in defence.

[masterchief]

I disagree. If a kid's been playing as a keeper since 7 I think it's a safe bet that's his favourite position and he deserves advanced training in the area when most of the time there isn't enough time for coaches to train Goalkeepers.

[Carlton life member]

I disagree. If a kid's been playing as a keeper since 7 I think it's a safe bet that's his favourite position and he deserves advanced training in the area when most of the time there isn't enough time for coaches to train Goalkeepers.

I'm not against giving a kid extra goalie training.

But I think it should be additional to training on the field with the rest of the team, and that the whole team should get some exposure to what it is like in goals.

[masterchief]

I'm not against giving a kid extra goalie training.

But I think it should be additional to training on the field with the rest of the team, and that the whole team should get some exposure to what it is like in goals.

I just don't think a training session should be wasted like that, especially when these kids only get to train one night a week.

[arabdownunder]

I disagree. If a kid's been playing as a keeper since 7 I think it's a safe bet that's his favourite position and he deserves advanced training in the area when most of the time there isn't enough time for coaches to train Goalkeepers.

Not arguing that the kid shouldn't get advanced goalie training. You have to strike a balance between the individual role of the keeper and the fact he is a member of the team. I would argue strongly that he should join in general training for most of the session(s), with some specialised training.

Building up keeping skills in the rest of the team is also useful if your regular keeper is sick, gets grounded, moves away, gets fed-up or any of the other things which happen to kids. You never know, there may be one of your other kids who wants to try keeping but has always thought "nah, that's Jimmy's position, he's played there since under 8s"

Anyway, whatever you decide, good luck with it.

[Carlton life member]

I just don't think a training session should be wasted like that, especially when these kids only get to train one night a week.

why do they only train one night a week?
all ours do two

[masterchief]

why do they only train one night a week?
all ours do two

Council restrictions on ground mean that there is only enough space for each team (exc seniors) to train one per week which is absolute shit if you ask me.

[Carlton life member]

Council restrictions on ground mean that there is only enough space for each team (exc seniors) to train one per week which is absolute shit if you ask me.

cos of drought

[masterchief]

cos of drought

I know still doesn't make it any better.

[in_da_know69]

Ricky - My keeper often asks me if he can go and do some keeper training during my sessions. My answer is that we are here do tactical stuff,and you are part of the team. You wanna practice your keeping, employ a goalkeeper coach to help you OUTSIDE of our training times. If you dont perform then :wave:.

Obviously we are at different levels though

[masterchief]

FUCKING HELL why did it have to rain today? Last training before season starts and IMO half my team won't even show up because of the rain. I really have to make it clear: WE TRAIN IN RAIN, HAIL OR SHINE!

[masterchief]

Haha just as I predicted. Actually more turned up than I thought would've. We had eight so I had to ring parents and give details for sunday's match but we definitely have a team for sunday which is good enough for now.

For the boys that were here tonight I actually had them doing U16 super league passing drills and they were doing them quite well which was surprising, a little guidance here and there and they were experts by the time we played the U15 girls in a 30 minute match, that's right they played a game against girls who were 3-4 years older than them and we had less players.







We won 1-0 :D Fantastic performance except for the finishing which we'll work on next training. We should've won 8-0

[Rizzo]

Manningham v Doncaster Rovers (Me)
U15 Super League, Round 1
May 07
1:45PM
Timber Ridge Reserve

Prediction: 1-1

[ben0009]

on the subject of keeper training, last night the keeper for the U/16 (i think) aussie rep team, who went on tour in england, came and coached me for a couple of hours. i have no idea why, but there you go. got a few tips, safe to say he's a bit better than me ;)

[masterchief]

on the subject of keeper training, last night the keeper for the U/16 (i think) aussie rep team, who went on tour in england, came and coached me for a couple of hours. i have no idea why, but there you go. got a few tips, safe to say he's a bit better than me ;)

What's his name? Isn't Dean Bouzanis 16?

[ben0009]

What's his name? Isn't Dean Bouzanis 16?

don't quote me on this lol i have no idea what age group, he was about 15-16, i don't want to say his name cos that would be a bit rude on a public forum. i know he went to england for a month or so representing australia in some youth tournament fairly recently. but yeah he was working with me tonight again, and coming back next week apparently.

[masterchief]

Very excited! I'll be at the ground in just over an hour for my first ever game as a coach :D

[ben0009]

Very excited! I'll be at the ground in just over an hour for my first ever game as a coach :D

how'd you go?

[masterchief]

how'd you go?

lol 9 players turned up including the Keeper. Not much we could've done. We lost by a hefty margin I think 11-0 but the main thing is we improved in the second half and the kids weren't too upset.

I need help. How the fucking hell do I teach defenders to defend :confused: That's the main reason we were beaten today, their strikers just beating our defenders so easily.

[cestaz]

lol 9 players turned up including the Keeper. Not much we could've done. We lost by a hefty margin I think 11-0 but the main thing is we improved in the second half and the kids weren't too upset.

I need help. How the fucking hell do I teach defenders to defend :confused: That's the main reason we were beaten today, their strikers just beating our defenders so easily.
Have you covered marking distance, jockeying/marking side on rather than square, getting your defenders to push attacking players onto the wings, supporting the player who has the job of holding the player with the ball, general support for distribution of the ball when it's won by the defence, talking from the goalkeeper in terms of getting him/her to watch the back of the defence, do you play with offside yet?, trying to stop defenders from panicking on the ball, trying to stop them from trying to whack the ball out of the box and in turn missing the ball entriely, ensuring you have one more defender than they have attackers, when to mark and when not to mark, how to mark players about to receive a ball from a throw in, ways to take goal-kicks, goal-side defending, chasing a ball down, anything else?