Green & Gold Army - Why Does Everyone Hate Them?

[cigar69]

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[M.R.M]

Generalisation?

[bosto]

They Bay 23 Boys seem to have this attitude of "Well we didn't organise this, we aren't in charge, fuck them"

How bloody childish.

Then you get these little net warriors that chip in with "fuck the tards, gga is a tard group, tard tard tard fuck tard". FFS I know this shit shouldn't bother me, but if any of these little pricks were actually in Germany they would keep there fucking traps shut.

I don't remember any victory chants in Germany (aside from when Tunna and co would occasionally take the piss).

I think the underlying issue is we have really got under their skin in the past 12 months.

1) We wouldn't drink with them be fore the Round 1 Game - Boo Hoo
2) 5-0, and we still remind them at every chance.
3) A better home end. Yes their numbers did get bigger as the bandwagon rolled on, but you can't start to compare our Tifo and participation.

Fact is the other states don't have a problem. Read the posts from the Roar and Glory fans.

They are the ones with the problem. And I'm afraid we are always going to have this when their are those holding this "If it didn't come out of Sydney..." attitude.

[Victory2006]

Attn: PROFANITY LADEN RANT AHEAD.....

FUCK SYDNEY. FUCK IT TO HELL.

I'm sick of these peasant bastards trying to OWN everything that is part of the game. SCREW YOU CUNTS. THE GG ARMY REPRESENTS THE COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA, NOT THE FUCKING REPUBLIC OF NSW.

YOU CAN STICK YOUR BAY 23 UP YOUR ARSE.

Jesus Christ they piss me off, now I hate them even more. (When I say THEM, I don't necessarily mean the whole lot of them, just those ignorant pigs that believe the GG Army are something that is in competition with their own Sydney based, piddly little support group.) God damned scum.

[gweeds]

Reading the Sydney thread looks like the 'GGA are tards' opinion is a minority. Even 'Munchen' who usually is pretty viral against anything Melbourne separates the 'Tard' thingo with having a general support group for Australia.

There seems to be some individuals who are inherently against anyone 'telling them what to do'. Nothing strange. We had this in the Melbourne Victory support base as well.

[LS 11]

Fully support the G&GA, am a member as well

They should be commended for their efforts - not just at the WC but when Australia was an embarrasment in the world of football - Like everything else there will always be the ones who want to slag off the efforts of those that actually got off their arses and did something

The G&GA is so well known now, and well respected that it will continue to the premier voice of Australian football support - no other wannabee group will be able to walk in the shadow the G&GA.

Plus they introduced me to my first Krispy Kreme, for which I am eternally gratefull

[XYNO]

Plus they introduced me to my first Krispy Kreme, for which I am eternally gratefull

Weren't they fantastic :D

Great memories that night, really wanted to win the cardboard bresciano....all i have now is my photos of me pretending to root it :D

[Daims09]

I think there is some internal stuff between some old Bay 23 boys and people involved in GGArmy.

I think everyone is moving in the right direction.... don't take to much notice of the cove forum.... as with ours sometimes its full of morons.

And agree... GGArmy was the heart of that Tour!! Was a a privledge to be apart of it.

[Jewboy]

Sheez their forum is rather morbid.

Doubt you'd find any 'I met a girl on the train last night' gold on there :D

[Simon]

Sheez their forum is rather morbid.

Doubt you'd find any 'I met a girl on the train last night' gold on there :D
Their forum is as dull as dishwater :o

[VICTORY*PRIDE]

I do support GGarmy and am a member but there is one big dislike about it
and that is that all you really need to do is sign up on an internet site and your part of it..:rolleyes:

i knoe there is the core GGarmy which are the real blokes who organize but it shouldnt be this easy!! More planning needed but i love how they are at all games and put money into it like buying the big national flag:)

[SOPS – Lord of the Blings]

I think the underlying issue is we have really got under their skin in the past 12 months.

1) We wouldn't drink with them be fore the Round 1 Game - Boo Hoo
2) 5-0, and we still remind them at every chance.
3) A better home end. Yes their numbers did get bigger as the bandwagon rolled on, but you can't start to compare our Tifo and participation.

Well firstly, this whole thing just seems to be a gigantic pi.ssing competition which, thankfully, many people are trying to resolve. Certainly I know that Bay 23 want this sorted out, as do pretty much any sane Socceroos fan.

The three reasons listed above are however bollocks. It seems the thing that rubbed the Bay 23 lads up the wrong way recently was the apparent (I stress, "apparent") theft of their designs to be used on G & G Army merchandise and banners. Even some G & G members have mentioned that if true, they're not impressed.

Anyway, it's petty and childish. If you wear green and gold, I don't care if you're from Melbourne, Sydney or bloody Nuritootpa.

There are a lot of di.ckheads on both sides. The bloke quoted above certainly seems to be one of them.

[Victory2006]

Where's Nuritootpa? ;)

Agree with all your sentiments SOPS, we're all supporting the same team, we should all work together and put petty squabbles behind. This is for the greater good, and not for some egotistical idiots wanting to lay claim to supporters as 'theirs'.

Those imbeciles saying that they hate GGA because we're 'tards' are really getting up my skin.

[lankks]

The Green and Gold Army looks all pretty and nice in their yellow colours, but when it comes down to it they're pathetically shit at creating any atmosphere eg. Australia vs Greece.

[Victory2006]

The Green and Gold Army looks all pretty and nice in their yellow colours, but when it comes down to it they're pathetically shit at creating any atmosphere eg. Australia vs Greece.

Mate, it's hard to create an atmosphere amongst a pack of people that had never been to a game, and a lot of Greeks. Also, by all accounts GGA was infiltrated by arseholes that refused to chant, etc. Just looking at them during the world cup, and listening to them go off, sticks your comment above right back where it belongs.

[lankks]

Mate, it's hard to create an atmosphere amongst a pack of people that had never been to a game, and a lot of Greeks. Also, by all accounts GGA was infiltrated by arseholes that refused to chant, etc. Just looking at them during the world cup, and listening to them go off, sticks your comment above right back where it belongs.Yeah, but I claim that the World Cup wasn't the GGArmy, but just a collective of Australian supporters.

It is hard to believe that the 3500 people that aquired tickets to those group games consisted of mainly GGArmy members, I would think that only a small minority would have been.

[magpie]

and that small minority were the people who organised the chants and got everyone going.

[LS 11]

Well firstly, this whole thing just seems to be a gigantic pi.ssing competition which, thankfully, many people are trying to resolve. Certainly I know that Bay 23 want this sorted out, as do pretty much any sane Socceroos fan.

The three reasons listed above are however bollocks. It seems the thing that rubbed the Bay 23 lads up the wrong way recently was the apparent (I stress, "apparent") theft of their designs to be used on G & G Army merchandise and banners. Even some G & G members have mentioned that if true, they're not impressed.

Anyway, it's petty and childish. If you wear green and gold, I don't care if you're from Melbourne, Sydney or bloody Nuritootpa.

There are a lot of di.ckheads on both sides. The bloke quoted above certainly seems to be one of them.


What Kindergartern do they go to? I dont want my kids going there

[bosto]

Well firstly, this whole thing just seems to be a gigantic pi.ssing competition which, thankfully, many people are trying to resolve. Certainly I know that Bay 23 want this sorted out, as do pretty much any sane Socceroos fan.

The three reasons listed above are however bollocks. It seems the thing that rubbed the Bay 23 lads up the wrong way recently was the apparent (I stress, "apparent") theft of their designs to be used on G & G Army merchandise and banners. Even some G & G members have mentioned that if true, they're not impressed.

Anyway, it's petty and childish. If you wear green and gold, I don't care if you're from Melbourne, Sydney or bloody Nuritootpa.

There are a lot of di.ckheads on both sides. The bloke quoted above certainly seems to be one of them.

:D I think I hit a nerve

[Victory2006]

:D I think I hit a nerve

A vein too! ;)

[Victory2006]

lol, it's going to be good standing in bay 23 for the Kuwait and Bahrain games :D

I'm still fuming that the Fanatics got 2 bays, and the GGA only one :mad:

[gweeds]

There has been some discussion in the Australia vs Argentina thread about the lack of 'support' by the GGA.

I wouldn't be so harsh on them. They have good banners and flags and they did attempt to start chants.

The problem I think is that they were still a small group. I also would venture that unlike Melbourne Victory supporters groups, they get together infrequently and therefore they don't have the opportunity to develop like the Northern Terrace that meets every couple of weeks or so.

Of course the acoustics of the MGC don't help.

But overall I think some credit should go to them for at least attempting to do something, unlike the 'Aussie oi oi' type of support from the Fanatics or whatever they are called.

I think that there is a case to be made that the GGA and the established Melbourne Victory supporter groups liaise for future matches.

What do you think of this idea? If anything they had a drum and a megaphone!

[Daydream]

The GGA aren't doing anything for the Matilda's World Cup campaign, that I can see.....:(

[Simon]

I don't hate them at all. I’ve just never joined, and that’s a conscious decision.

[RunnaLittle]

If anything they had a drum and a megaphone!

Kind of shoots the argument that a drum is necessary really doesn't it...






:helpsmilie:

[v for victory]

Kind of shoots the argument that a drum is necessary really doesn't it...






:helpsmilie:

Have you heard horto with a drum?

[VICTORY*PRIDE]

i hate them!

[MVFCMUFC]

They had a drum and barely used it, and told off a new forumites for starting "new chants"

Pretty low form, but I haven't got much agaisnt them, I respect them for travelling and trying to be visual support, if they had a megaphone and bargained with the FFA for some exclusive room, they can do something good.

[VICTORY*PRIDE]

who ever the fuck was who told me off, you a toss. Get a fucking life.
one of our boys were getting searched by a cop for no reason, ACAB chant was needed and if you wanna bash me for sticking up for fellow fans then lets go

[OLE]

who ever the fuck was who told me off, you a toss. Get a fucking life.
one of our boys were getting searched by a cop for no reason, ACAB chant was needed and if you wanna bash me for sticking up for fellow fans then lets go
omg yeh it was.
i got told by the police to sit down i think u might of been the only perosn in the bay that stood up 4 me

[nath]

They had a drum and barely used it, and told off a new forumites for starting "new chants"

Pretty low form, but I haven't got much agaisnt them, I respect them for travelling and trying to be visual support, if they had a megaphone and bargained with the FFA for some exclusive room, they can do something good.

the drum was made redundant when it got soaked by a moron last night who proceeded to throw beer all over them and the drum....how beer makes a drum useless i dont know..but thats what happened....hope the police gave him what he deserved....

[nath]

Also didnt help we forgot to check on the batteries in the megaphone....that really sucked when we got it to the ground and the batteries died...

[MVFCMUFC]

the drum was made redundant when it got soaked by a moron last night who proceeded to throw beer all over them and the drum....how beer makes a drum useless i dont know..but thats what happened....hope the police gave him what he deserved....

Also didnt help we forgot to check on the batteries in the megaphone....that really sucked when we got it to the ground and the batteries died...

Ahh fair enough then.

I think I was a bit harsh then

[nath]

Ahh fair enough then.

I think I was a bit harsh then

all good....

the magaphone would have helped a bit....

same old problem though...people yelling at us to sit down when there tikets had been bought in the gga section....you knew what you were in for when you bought the tickets..

The Unified home end is definitely the way to go, however I dont know when thats going to happen. The idea has been put forward to the FFA, just a matter of them selling "Australia Supporters section" tickets down one end of the ground and not separate bays for gga / fanatics etc..

The GGA has already agreed to this plan as the majority of us know this is what is needed to move forward...a matter of the ffa putting it into action now.

[MVFCMUFC]

all good....

the magaphone would have helped a bit....

same old problem though...people yelling at us to sit down when there tikets had been bought in the gga section....you knew what you were in for when you bought the tickets..

The Unified home end is definitely the way to go, however I dont know when thats going to happen. The idea has been put forward to the FFA, just a matter of them selling "Australia Supporters section" tickets down one end of the ground and not separate bays for gga / fanatics etc..

The GGA has already agreed to this plan as the majority of us know this is what is needed to move forward...a matter of the ffa putting it into action now.
Consultation with specific club supporter groups of the city would be good, I think, I'm sure I wasn't the only Melbourne home ender caught out last night with how the end works.

[The twisted wheel]

Don't mind the GGArmy but will never have anything to do with them. Reason can be summed up in one question: Where were most of them when football wasn't fashionable? Can't stand bandwagoners

[AVFC88]

GGA Has gotta stop being a match day crew.

It's national team, you don't do 'crews'.

GGA need to take a leaf out of, dare i say it, cricket. 'The Barmby Army' is what the GGA should aim to be.

GGA, in my view, shoould be a group that works tirelessely behind the scenes. Organise the pre-match meet up's, make their banners, etc.

But come game day, their is no capo. There is no need for a mega, and whoever starts a chant you join in with. This isnt club support, its country. And their is a big differenace in the way it SHOULD opperate.

Things like having a 'GGA Bay' is complete and utter crap. Good to see their is an attempt to scrap this. Have the Australian End, with no fucking capo, no one person designed to start chants etc.

Also, must keep chants basic, and keep them going for a while. Unlike club football, fans don't have an endless list of chants for country, as its too hard to ensure everyone know's them etc. So stick with a few chants, and when they are going, KEEP THEM GOING. Look at England, someone starts 'Football's Coming Home' and it gets around the whole stadium. England don't have a massive list of Nat Team chants, but when they sing them, everyone knows them, and everyone joins in. Further proof, croatia. They sing that 'volim te hrvatska' song for minutes and minutes on end. And it sounds real affective.

P.S Serioulsy just get rid of that GGA Ultras banners, its just plain embarrassing. Get rid of Simon Hill banners etc. FFS, have some pride. Apart from saying how good the gga is - what has Simon Hill done? There are a thousand people more deserving of a standard than Simon Hill. '

P.P.S SCan you please make standards in a colour other than yellow. Having every standard the same colour loses affect.

[Brad76]

GGA Has gotta stop being a match day crew.

It's national team, you don't do 'crews'.

GGA need to take a leaf out of, dare i say it, cricket. 'The Barmby Army' is what the GGA should aim to be.

GGA, in my view, shoould be a group that works tirelessely behind the scenes. Organise the pre-match meet up's, make their banners, etc.

But come game day, their is no capo. There is no need for a mega, and whoever starts a chant you join in with. This isnt club support, its country. And their is a big differenace in the way it SHOULD opperate.

Things like having a 'GGA Bay' is complete and utter crap. Good to see their is an attempt to scrap this. Have the Australian End, with no fucking capo, no one person designed to start chants etc.

Also, must keep chants basic, and keep them going for a while. Unlike club football, fans don't have an endless list of chants for country, as its too hard to ensure everyone know's them etc. So stick with a few chants, and when they are going, KEEP THEM GOING. Look at England, someone starts 'Football's Coming Home' and it gets around the whole stadium. England don't have a massive list of Nat Team chants, but when they sing them, everyone knows them, and everyone joins in. Further proof, croatia. They sing that 'volim te hrvatska' song for minutes and minutes on end. And it sounds real affective.

P.S Serioulsy just get rid of that GGA Ultras banners, its just plain embarrassing. Get rid of Simon Hill banners etc. FFS, have some pride. Apart from saying how good the gga is - what has Simon Hill done? There are a thousand people more deserving of a standard than Simon Hill. '

P.P.S SCan you please make standards in a colour other than yellow. Having every standard the same colour loses affect.


Sorry mate you weren't in Thailand the GGA did a wonderful job of organising the whole tour and making sure all the aussie supporters were in one place, which led to more unified chanting etc at the games.

At the Iraq game the GGA called out to the supporters to the left of our bay with "Come and Join us over here" within 5 minutes all the scattered aussie supporters were gathered in one place. Sometimes you have to teach the non- active supporters what it's all about. Even when these supporters were with us they chanted aussie, aussie oi, oi, which was met with 'It's not the fucking cricket"

This has been discussed before, you can't get "civilains" who go to a football game once every year to participate in chants at NT games, same thing happens with Victory, so I don't know why people are complaining.

All in all the value of the GGA was proved in Thailand, people had a great time and the atmosphere pre-game and at the stadium was fantastic.


And to all the little muzza's who were standing two rows behind us respect the fact that people from other states have joined the home end and keep your home team chants to yourself.

[s3tTz]

Abolishing reserved seating in the home end is THE way to go. Call it an "active supporters section", and allow standing. That'd fuck off all the leeches, and will allow greater co-operation between "crews".

[RunnaLittle]

Also, must keep chants basic, and keep them going for a while. Unlike club football, fans don't have an endless list of chants for country, as its too hard to ensure everyone know's them etc. So stick with a few chants, and when they are going, KEEP THEM GOING.
All A-League teams have exactly the same chants -w e should be able to use any one of them and the copying cheating abstards will know the words...


:tt4:

[EdgarMVFC]

Abolishing reserved seating in the home end is THE way to go. Call it an "active supporters section", and allow standing. That'd fuck off all the leeches, and will allow greater co-operation between "crews".

we need a way to piss off people who don't want in and keep the "active supporters" togeather so chanting works to better effect

[Kat]

Don't mind the GGArmy but will never have anything to do with them. Reason can be summed up in one question: Where were most of them when football wasn't fashionable? Can't stand bandwagoners

where? at the games... just because the didnt have a name prior to 2001 doesnt mean they werent around

fkwit

[s3tTz]

where? at the games... just because the didnt have a name prior to 2001 doesnt mean they werent around

fkwit
*insert anti-AFL retort to Kat here*

:stuart:

[rory]

I REKON THE ggarmy ARE SIK BRO.

[Kat]

*insert anti-AFL retort to Kat here*

:stuart:

:tt4:

[RunnaLittle]

where? at the games... just because the didnt have a name prior to 2001 doesnt mean they werent around

fkwit

*insert anti-AFL retort to Kat here*

:stuart:

A better retort would be to ask her how long she has followed the Melbourne Victory for.

[Kat]

A better retort would be to ask her how long she has followed the Melbourne Victory for.

not long, only went to my first game this season
is there a problem?

[Daydream]

Don't mind the GGArmy but will never have anything to do with them. Reason can be summed up in one question: Where were most of them when football wasn't fashionable? Can't stand bandwagoners

From my (very limited) experience of the GGArmy, prior to the last WCQ, they seemed to be a relatively small but really intense, passionate and well respected group, I remember seeing them interviewed by Fozzie on TWG, can't remember when that was, but it seemed that Fozzie was giving them respect as knowledgable about all the intricacies of the team and passionate, dedicated supporters. Don't know what's happened since then, I'm not involved.
Having said that, IMO, GGA can still be great, they just need some good strategies to cope with increasing membership and involvement.

BTW, I think I remember saying exactly the same thing in another GGArmy thread.....

[Daims09]

GGA Has gotta stop being a match day crew.

It's national team, you don't do 'crews'.

GGA need to take a leaf out of, dare i say it, cricket. 'The Barmby Army' is what the GGA should aim to be.

GGA, in my view, shoould be a group that works tirelessely behind the scenes. Organise the pre-match meet up's, make their banners, etc.

But come game day, their is no capo. There is no need for a mega, and whoever starts a chant you join in with. This isnt club support, its country. And their is a big differenace in the way it SHOULD opperate.

Things like having a 'GGA Bay' is complete and utter crap. Good to see their is an attempt to scrap this. Have the Australian End, with no fucking capo, no one person designed to start chants etc.

Also, must keep chants basic, and keep them going for a while. Unlike club football, fans don't have an endless list of chants for country, as its too hard to ensure everyone know's them etc. So stick with a few chants, and when they are going, KEEP THEM GOING. Look at England, someone starts 'Football's Coming Home' and it gets around the whole stadium. England don't have a massive list of Nat Team chants, but when they sing them, everyone knows them, and everyone joins in. Further proof, croatia. They sing that 'volim te hrvatska' song for minutes and minutes on end. And it sounds real affective.

P.S Serioulsy just get rid of that GGA Ultras banners, its just plain embarrassing. Get rid of Simon Hill banners etc. FFS, have some pride. Apart from saying how good the gga is - what has Simon Hill done? There are a thousand people more deserving of a standard than Simon Hill. '

P.P.S SCan you please make standards in a colour other than yellow. Having every standard the same colour loses affect.

Mate this is a great post and I agree almost 100%

I just say though that GGA is foing a hell of alot work behind the scenes and im sure will continue to do so.. as brad mentioned thailand tours were great.

Come match no doubt things need to change and what you suggested is very very true and i hope it happens.

I guess the reason the 30 so people who are really involved in GGA stand together on match days is we dont see each other (because we are located all arounf the place ) other than match days so every aussie game is like a Asia / World Cup reunion...

But yer good post :) (mean that seriously too)

[VICTORY*PRIDE]

[/B]
omg yeh it was.
i got told by the police to sit down i think u might of been the only perosn in the bay that stood up 4 me

yeh, i think you were in a white jacket or somethink?
then i got threatned rofl, GGArmy wanka's!:punk:

[RunnaLittle]

not long, only went to my first game this season
is there a problem?

no problem - i just know it pisses you off :tt4:

[Kat]

no problem - i just know it pisses you off :tt4:

nah... u mean nothing to me really

[RunnaLittle]

nah... u mean nothing to me really

really?

[AVFC88]

really?

:fishingface:

lol

"I am Kat, boss of the afl and every football supporter. HEAR ME ROAR!!"

[RunnaLittle]

:fishingface:

lol

"I am Kat, boss of the afl and every football supporter. HEAR ME ROAR!!"

Did you hear the AFL Merchandisers signed off incorrectly on the Richmond and Essendon Hungry Jacks puzzle pieces. They had the sashes going the wrong way. Amatuer mistake imo.

Anyone know who signs off everything at the AFL? especially merchandise?

[AVFC88]

Did you hear the AFL Merchandisers signed off incorrectly on the Richmond and Essendon Hungry Jacks puzzle pieces. They had the sashes going the wrong way. Amatuer mistake imo.

Anyone know who signs off everything at the AFL? especially merchandise?

Would have to be someone pretty powerful. Probably whoever does that runs the AFL as a whole.

[t0mas10]

lolz...

lolz indeed

[Brad76]

Would have to be someone pretty powerful. Probably whoever does that runs the AFL as a whole.

LOL stop givin shit to Kat.

[ROMA]

Abolishing reserved seating in the home end is THE way to go. Call it an "active supporters section", and allow standing, and will allow greater co-operation between "crews".

that would make alot of common sense.and answer all problems faced.

GGA Has gotta stop being a match day crew.

It's national team, you don't do 'crews'.
GGA, in my view, shoould be a group that works tirelessely behind the scenes. Organise the pre-match meet up's, make their banners, etc.

But come game day, their is no capo. There is no need for a mega, and whoever starts a chant you join in with. This isnt club support, its country. And their is a big differenace in the way it SHOULD opperate.

Things like having a 'GGA Bay' is complete and utter crap. Good to see their is an attempt to scrap this. Have the Australian End, with no fucking capo, no one person designed to start chants etc.



another great post. which answers everything.

[Kat]

ahhh in the words of ben cousins... such is life

[The twisted wheel]

where? at the games... just because the didnt have a name prior to 2001 doesnt mean they werent around

fkwit

I've met some of them f**wad, and they barely knew what shape ball we use

[Daydream]

I've met some of them f**wad, and they barely knew what shape ball we use

That's what I meant before, pre-WCQ GGArmy=true supporters, post WCQ GGArmy=Bandwagoners.

[RunnaLittle]

I've met some of them f**wad, and they barely knew what shape ball we use

was that in your days as an undercover cop? fkwith indeed :lulz:


:taz:

[RunnaLittle]

ahhh in the words of ben cousins... such is life

you mean Ned Kelly yeah?

[The twisted wheel]

was that in your days as an undercover cop? fkwith indeed :lulz:


:taz:

:clown: I know who you are. I have you on video.

[Kat]

I've met some of them f**wad, and they barely knew what shape ball we use

loll who did u meet?

and daydream honestly... make up your mind

[The twisted wheel]

loll who did u meet?

and daydream honestly... make up your mind

when you're talking to people in pubs and other public venues, do you carry a note pad and pencil?

[Kat]

it was a rhetorical question...

[Sean Oh Yeah]

Firstly let me say, i have played the game since i was 4, and still play futsal to this day. I dabbled in the NSL, and love being a Victory member.

I sat in the GG bay (tix from being a post Germany GGA member) on Tuesdee nite, and i was not expecting much...but i was highly impressed by the fact that Australians from other states were there...and singing (i can pick accents and other nuances etc).

It was like a united feeling, the the most active of all the NT supporters all over the country, watching our team play a very entertaining friendly.

I liked it, and if my fiance would ever bear to stand up for another full 90 mins, i'll be there again.

Cheers to all!

[azza]

From my (very limited) experience of the GGArmy, prior to the last WCQ, they seemed to be a relatively small but really intense, passionate and well respected group, I remember seeing them interviewed by Fozzie on TWG, can't remember when that was, but it seemed that Fozzie was giving them respect as knowledgable about all the intricacies of the team and passionate, dedicated supporters. Don't know what's happened since then, I'm not involved.
Having said that, IMO, GGA can still be great, they just need some good strategies to cope with increasing membership and involvement.

BTW, I think I remember saying exactly the same thing in another GGArmy thread.....

I remember games like the Young Socceroos v Chile when there was only really 15 Australian supporters for the whole game and the rest was all Chilean, now that day was probably one of the best days in terms of supporting the national team in terms of quality. All 15 or so were in the GGA. Almost felt like an away game the way we were outnumbered, likewise when we played Turkey in the friendlies.

Anyway, socially, the country has changed a great deal in the sporting landscape since 2005. A 'United Home End' is fantastic in theory for example, but I think the atmosphere would be more dampened for the sheer fact that it would be extremely dispersed and the fact that Australians aren't really into the vocal support for teams.

On Tuesday, a few things went wrong, firstly the megaphone had no batteries, secondly, too many people went to the game just to watch Argentina play rather than to support Australia. If the Socceroos played week in, week out... things would be bloody fantastic in the home end, but there is only really a hand full of games in Australia. I remember when the Clarendon Corner use to lead a lot of the chants at Australian games or at least several members of the Clarendon Corner. Those were the days :)

Easy solution... lets clone me :D

[West End]

Look I firmly believe some sort of 'mediation' or similar needs to occur with the Bay23 lads from Sydney. For decades Sydney was the home of the NT, with Bay23 supporting them through thick or thin. They are not new to football, many of the original "nutters" following St George in the NSL. They might not have been as organised as the G&G Army however their commitment to the Socceroos should never be questioned. Anyone on this forum who followed football in Australia through the Eighties & Nineties should know this.

[azza]

That's what I meant before, pre-WCQ GGArmy=true supporters, post WCQ GGArmy=Bandwagoners.

when you go onto the GGA forum, you can tell who is a bandwagoner and who isn't by looking at their numbers... ie, put your mouse on the 'email' command and on the bottom of the screen, you will see a number which is when you joined pretty much... my number is 284 :p Muz is 57... then we zoom into people like... for example olegunner_20, he is 2399...

[ROMA]

Look I firmly believe some sort of 'mediation' or similar needs to occur with the Bay23 lads from Sydney. For decades Sydney was the home of the NT, with Bay23 supporting them through thick or thin. They are not new to football, many of the original "nutters" following St George in the NSL. They might not have been as organised as the G&G Army however their commitment to the Socceroos should never be questioned. Anyone on this forum who followed football in Australia through the Eighties & Nineties should know this.

its not about ggarmy or bay23 or whatever.
its the fact that the area or 'end' should come under the 'one' NEUTRAL name.
cos this is where all the confusion, the hatred,the bagging.....is occuring.

AUSTRALIA HOME END.
(active support area).

not

GGARMY BAY.or FANATICS QANTAS END.

i think this is what evryone is saying and agrees with.

if this is clearly identified on ticketing or maps or general information for match fixtures.
im sure u will see an increase in 'active support' from all groups, wether it be vpl/aleague or general football lovers.

[RunnaLittle]

when you go onto the GGA forum, you can tell who is a bandwagoner and who isn't by looking at their numbers... ie, put your mouse on the 'email' command and on the bottom of the screen, you will see a number which is when you joined pretty much... my number is 284 :p Muz is 57... then we zoom into people like... for example olegunner_20, he is 2399...

I am #357

had to make an erroneous post just to find that out.

[Kat]

when you go onto the GGA forum, you can tell who is a bandwagoner and who isn't by looking at their numbers... ie, put your mouse on the 'email' command and on the bottom of the screen, you will see a number which is when you joined pretty much... my number is 284 :p Muz is 57... then we zoom into people like... for example olegunner_20, he is 2399...

thats just silly azza

the number is when they joined the GGA forum... not when they became supporters

never judge anyone by what they post, how much they post and when they joined a forum!!

[Sean Oh Yeah]

if i am an Australian bandwagoner, than so be it. just cos i joined some forum, after Germany 06.

lets clone you Azza, but not _that_ gene, ok?

btw, Roma, good points.

[ROMA]

perfect example was in germany.
it was the 'AUSSIE END' or area /corner.

NOTHING ELSE.

wether you booked through gga, fucknatics, or were on tours or just travelling on your own, you stood in the 'AUSSIE supporters SECTION',
and were proud to stand there.

you saw banners from PRESTON,SOUTH MELBOURNE,SYDNEY, olympic..ETC..
all united..was great to see.

but stating the bay/s as GGARMY bays, just deters people from it.
not that they disrespect them, its just how it is. as they dont want to be labelled as all ggarmy or whatever.

[4stars]

I can categorically inform everyone that the real 'heavies' of Bay23 would never ever sit down and discuss 'issues' with supporters who 'decided' to follow the Socceroos from 2 years ago. Some couldn't care less nowdays actually.

GGA does a good job for certain types of fans, they're well organised, not offensive, media friendly etc etc etc.

However it is difficult for people such as myself who have been through 30 years of Socceroo/NSL/ASF/SA misery and heartache to sit/stand next to people who have recently decided to jump on the Socceroo/football bandwagon, the same types who bagged and ridiculed the game when it was known as 'wogball'.

If people claim they love the game and their country where the fuck where they in the 70's, 80's and 90's. NO EXCUSES for not following your country, NONE.

[EdgarMVFC]

If people claim they love the game and their country where the fuck where they in the 70's, 80's and 90's. NO EXCUSES for not following your country, NONE.

i wasn't born.....

[4stars]

i wasn't born.....


Those that were around, not those that weren't! Plenty of them around too.

[OLE]

This is my G & G story
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4671/picture207vd6gi9.jpg
that’s me . . . .right there^^^^in the white jacket I was standing in that area for the whole game with others from the green and gold army and a few mates and at about the 35min mark a cop came over to me and said “this is not a standing bay you have to sit down, because people behind cant see” so I turn around and see the whole bay of G and G army people just standing there letting the police officer single me out so I said to the cop “wtf I paid for my ticket as well I can support how I want” then at this time two guys (VICTORY*PRIDE was one of them i think) tried to start the ACAB chant and the rest off the bay told them to fuck up and show respect to the cops at this time the police went away because they knew I wasn’t goin to back down.

This is why the GG army is shit they didn’t protect fellow fans and let the cops do what they want. This would never happen in the NT

[EdgarMVFC]

+ added to my smartars point i'm now 17... only realy been going to the football for the lst 3 yrs (a-league) and before that i never went to any football cos everyone in my family was nuts about AFL... i hav played it since i was 10 and the only one in my family not to have played AFL at junior level... and have only followed for the last 3 years cos b4 that i wud have to go to event with a parent bi my side

now if i has recently jointed the GGA forum am i just a band wagoner??

[acmilan_victory]

:wub:

[EdgarMVFC]

This is my G & G story

that’s me in the white jacket( cant get the photo is to this thread its in the other one), I was standing in that area for the whole game with others from the green and gold army and a few mates and at about the 35min mark a cop came over to me and said “this is not a standing bay you have to sit down, because people behind cant see” so I turn around and see the whole bay of G and G army people just standing there letting the police officer single me out so I said to the cop “wtf I paid for my ticket as well I can support how I want” then at this time two guys (VICTORY*PRIDE was one of them i think) tried to start the ACAB chant and the rest off the bay told them to fuck up and show respect to the cops at this time the police went away because they knew I wasn’t goin to back down.

This is why the GG army is shit they didn’t protect fellow fans and let the cops do what they want. This would never happen in the NT

i was there with you also and that y i'm not going to get involved in GGA... u c a young supporter being singled out bi the cops u help him u dun tell him to fuck off and tell him hes not welcome

[EdgarMVFC]

:wub:

talk to lazy ars hole... all u have posted is that all day

[Brad76]

This is my G & G story

that’s me in the white jacket( cant get the photo is to this thread its in the other one), I was standing in that area for the whole game with others from the green and gold army and a few mates and at about the 35min mark a cop came over to me and said “this is not a standing bay you have to sit down, because people behind cant see” so I turn around and see the whole bay of G and G army people just standing there letting the police officer single me out so I said to the cop “wtf I paid for my ticket as well I can support how I want” then at this time two guys (VICTORY*PRIDE was one of them i think) tried to start the ACAB chant and the rest off the bay told them to fuck up and show respect to the cops at this time the police went away because they knew I wasn’t goin to back down.

This is why the GG army is shit they didn’t protect fellow fans and let the cops do what they want. This would never happen in the NT

Mate get your facts right, that whole bay wasn't GGA, the people in the first three rows were GGA and yes we were chanting ACAB at that point, so son't know what you're crapping on about. The people you're referring to are the "civilains' who bought tickets and didn't realise they were sitting an active support area.

[EdgarMVFC]

Mate get your facts right, that whole bay wasn't GGA, the people in the first three rows were GGA and yes we were chanting ACAB at that point, so son't know what you're crapping on about. The people you're referring to are the "civilains' who bought tickets and didn't realise they were sitting an active support area.

ur talking crap... there was about 10 of us that were chanting ACAB this particluar time... no one from GGA started they came and told us to stop it and wanted to punch on if we started to do it again

[Daydream]

Easy solution... lets clone me :D
YEAH!!! Let's clone you, then you can have a kickabout with DD Jnr AND join us for a beer at the same time!!!

[azza]

thats just silly azza

the number is when they joined the GGA forum... not when they became supporters

never judge anyone by what they post, how much they post and when they joined a forum!!

'twas tongue in cheek kat :p you should know by now that I have this sarcasm about me

[acmilan_victory]

This is my G & G story
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4671/picture207vd6gi9.jpg
that’s me . . . .right there^^^^in the white jacket I was standing in that area for the whole game with others from the green and gold army and a few mates and at about the 35min mark a cop came over to me and said “this is not a standing bay you have to sit down, because people behind cant see” so I turn around and see the whole bay of G and G army people just standing there letting the police officer single me out so I said to the cop “wtf I paid for my ticket as well I can support how I want” then at this time two guys (VICTORY*PRIDE was one of them i think) tried to start the ACAB chant and the rest off the bay told them to fuck up and show respect to the cops at this time the police went away because they knew I wasn’t goin to back down.

This is why the GG army is shit they didn’t protect fellow fans and let the cops do what they want. This would never happen in the NT

:wub:

[t0mas10]

:wub:

:wubb:

[gwynne]

I can categorically inform everyone that the real 'heavies' of Bay23 would never ever sit down and discuss 'issues' with supporters who 'decided' to follow the Socceroos from 2 years ago. Some couldn't care less nowdays actually.

GGA does a good job for certain types of fans, they're well organised, not offensive, media friendly etc etc etc.

However it is difficult for people such as myself who have been through 30 years of Socceroo/NSL/ASF/SA misery and heartache to sit/stand next to people who have recently decided to jump on the Socceroo/football bandwagon, the same types who bagged and ridiculed the game when it was known as 'wogball'.

If people claim they love the game and their country where the fuck where they in the 70's, 80's and 90's. NO EXCUSES for not following your country, NONE.

Mate, I'm not GGA anymore but I think you'll find most of them who are are under the age of 30. Not many old guys in there at all. I'm 24 myself and have been going to the Socceroos games in Sydney since 2001 when I was 18.

[RunnaLittle]

thats just silly azza

the number is when they joined the GGA forum... not when they became supporters

never judge anyone by what they post, how much they post and when they joined a forum!!

is that because you are user 7357?

[Daims09]

I can categorically inform everyone that the real 'heavies' of Bay23 would never ever sit down and discuss 'issues' with supporters who 'decided' to follow the Socceroos from 2 years ago. Some couldn't care less nowdays actually.

GGA does a good job for certain types of fans, they're well organised, not offensive, media friendly etc etc etc.

However it is difficult for people such as myself who have been through 30 years of Socceroo/NSL/ASF/SA misery and heartache to sit/stand next to people who have recently decided to jump on the Socceroo/football bandwagon, the same types who bagged and ridiculed the game when it was known as 'wogball'.

If people claim they love the game and their country where the fuck where they in the 70's, 80's and 90's. NO EXCUSES for not following your country, NONE.

No offense mate.

But most of GGA people who a reguarly active have followed football most of there lives.

So polietly get your facts straight.

its not about ggarmy or bay23 or whatever.
its the fact that the area or 'end' should come under the 'one' NEUTRAL name.
cos this is where all the confusion, the hatred,the bagging.....is occuring.

AUSTRALIA HOME END.
(active support area).

not

GGARMY BAY.or FANATICS QANTAS END.

i think this is what evryone is saying and agrees with.

if this is clearly identified on ticketing or maps or general information for match fixtures.
im sure u will see an increase in 'active support' from all groups, wether it be vpl/aleague or general football lovers.

Agreed!

Most people in GGA agree with this as well..

Problem is the whole allocated seating system the FFA wants to employ rather than having just a non allocated supporter section.

Makes life very tough.

This is my G & G story
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4671/picture207vd6gi9.jpg
that’s me . . . .right there^^^^in the white jacket I was standing in that area for the whole game with others from the green and gold army and a few mates and at about the 35min mark a cop came over to me and said “this is not a standing bay you have to sit down, because people behind cant see” so I turn around and see the whole bay of G and G army people just standing there letting the police officer single me out so I said to the cop “wtf I paid for my ticket as well I can support how I want” then at this time two guys (VICTORY*PRIDE was one of them i think) tried to start the ACAB chant and the rest off the bay told them to fuck up and show respect to the cops at this time the police went away because they knew I wasn’t goin to back down.

This is why the GG army is shit they didn’t protect fellow fans and let the cops do what they want. This would never happen in the NT

I am actully quite sorry to hear that.

I know if i was there would have told em that this was standing bay as everyone was standing..

I would have hoped so would have others.

Big problem honestly is that while GGA have bays they will always be blamed for what happens in that bay.. even if it wasn't reg members.

More reason for a united home end really.

But i can tell ya most of us involved reg in GGA that i know would got involved if we knew... also important to state GGA has people in from all over the country that goes for tuesday.

Safe to say many have different mentality than we have here in Melbourne... so they don;t think the same we do aka police.

Anyway for what its worth

ACAB

[VICTORY*PRIDE]

This is my G & G story
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4671/picture207vd6gi9.jpg
that’s me . . . .right there^^^^in the white jacket I was standing in that area for the whole game with others from the green and gold army and a few mates and at about the 35min mark a cop came over to me and said “this is not a standing bay you have to sit down, because people behind cant see” so I turn around and see the whole bay of G and G army people just standing there letting the police officer single me out so I said to the cop “wtf I paid for my ticket as well I can support how I want” then at this time two guys (VICTORY*PRIDE was one of them i think) tried to start the ACAB chant and the rest off the bay told them to fuck up and show respect to the cops at this time the police went away because they knew I wasn’t goin to back down.

This is why the GG army is shit they didn’t protect fellow fans and let the cops do what they want. This would never happen in the NT

It was a shock, when so called GGArmy fans pulled me away, and told me to give repect to cops, and not to chant ACAB or will bash you(wtf!?!). After that i walked away, and stood at the back, were most mah mates were. Half time i went back down to the guy to sort it out, to say sorry then he rips into me, and his brother giving me crap that he didnt threaten me, then straight after that he threaten me again. I for one will never, ever support GGArmy or stand near them, there a disgrace.

Mate get your facts right, that whole bay wasn't GGA, the people in the first three rows were GGA and yes we were chanting ACAB at that point, so son't know what you're crapping on about. The people you're referring to are the "civilains' who bought tickets and didn't realise they were sitting an active support area.

Well according to the people who came up to me, they spoke for the rest of the GGArmy by say we, the GGArmy do not want that we show respect to the cops, well untill they show football fans respect then why should respect be given back to them? Also bollock's the front rows joined in with ACAB chant!!

[Milano Danielo]

yeah i agree with daims the mentality is differnt here than it is with the other states
and i was with ole when he got picked on by the police guy and i thought he handled himself well haha good work
ole lol

[Daims09]

It was a shock, when so called GGArmy fans pulled me away, and told me to give repect to cops, and not to chant ACAB or will bash you(wtf!?!). After that i walked away, and stood at the back, were most mah mates were. Half time i went back down to the guy to sort it out, to say sorry then he rips into me, and his brother giving me crap that he didnt threaten me, then straight after that he threaten me again. I for one will never, ever support GGArmy or stand near them, there a disgrace.



Well according to the people who came up to me, they spoke for the rest of the GGArmy by say we, the GGArmy do not want that we show respect to the cops, well untill they show football fans respect then why should respect be given back to them? Also bollock's the front rows joined in with ACAB chant!!

To be honest the only ones who can speak for "GGA" are its organising committee... rest of us are active with in it.

Listen I personally see why your upset, can also see why you want to vent and its your right to do so... nothing illegal about sing ACAB.

To be honest I had no idea anything happened till the next day and i was smack in the middle of the bay... so im sure there were plenty of other GGA regs in the same boat.

We had our own issues with the police which got me and muz nearly kicked out.. which ended in the old ACAB chant coming out.

Anyway I understand your anger mate so im not going make excuses.. just letting ya know... Id sincerly hope you weren't seriously threated by any GGA reg.. for doing what happened.

Again goes to the issue with GGA having its own bay... anyone can say they are from GGA and instantly it falls back on them.

Anyway mate sorry to hear what happened

[Sean Oh Yeah]

I can categorically inform everyone that the real 'heavies' of Bay23 would never ever sit down and discuss 'issues' with supporters who 'decided' to follow the Socceroos from 2 years ago. Some couldn't care less nowdays actually.

GGA does a good job for certain types of fans, they're well organised, not offensive, media friendly etc etc etc.

However it is difficult for people such as myself who have been through 30 years of Socceroo/NSL/ASF/SA misery and heartache to sit/stand next to people who have recently decided to jump on the Socceroo/football bandwagon, the same types who bagged and ridiculed the game when it was known as 'wogball'.

If people claim they love the game and their country where the fuck where they in the 70's, 80's and 90's. NO EXCUSES for not following your country, NONE.

wow, some anger issues. good luck with that. seriously.

[Sean Oh Yeah]

This is my G & G story
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4671/picture207vd6gi9.jpg
that’s me . . . .right there^^^^in the white jacket I was standing in that area for the whole game with others from the green and gold army and a few mates and at about the 35min mark a cop came over to me and said “this is not a standing bay you have to sit down, because people behind cant see” so I turn around and see the whole bay of G and G army people just standing there letting the police officer single me out so I said to the cop “wtf I paid for my ticket as well I can support how I want” then at this time two guys (VICTORY*PRIDE was one of them i think) tried to start the ACAB chant and the rest off the bay told them to fuck up and show respect to the cops at this time the police went away because they knew I wasn’t goin to back down.

This is why the GG army is shit they didn’t protect fellow fans and let the cops do what they want. This would never happen in the NT

champ, plenty of people standing in M33, even in the aisle. Perhaps instead of carrying that chip on yer shoulder you could of looked around and realised there was a solution to your problem that did not involve getting all combative with the cops. Many people will sympathise with you, but you brought in on yerself...be an adult and smartin up.

Piss in the face of my olive branch and advice.... if you do it will be the last time i bother trying to help you, bro.

[Fools_Gold]

The GGArmy sold out

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