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futuremelvicstar
August 2nd, 2006, 10:52 AM
A-League shoots for improved on-field quality
August 2, 2006 - 1:01AM

The combined success of the inaugural A-League season and the Socceroos' dream World Cup run has made Football Federation Australia's job a whole lot easier this year, says competition boss Matt Carroll.

It is just under four weeks from A-League kick-off and the pre-season is in full swing, attracting both media interest and crowds of up to 7000 at venues like Carrara Stadium in Canberra.

But this time last year Carroll, A-League Head of Operations at the FFA, said he had to not only convince people the new competition was worthwhile but that football itself was worth a second look.

"We don't have to ... justify the credibility of the game, following on from last year's successes of the A-League and the Socceroos at the World Cup," Carroll told AAP.

"The game now has that mainstream acceptance.

"We are capitalising on that, in that we don't have as much work in getting that acceptance, now what we are really doing is promoting the league."

Carroll said the FFA was focused on cranking up the promotion of the A-League as it entered its second edition, with the aim of topping 15,000 average attendance at matches from around 10,000 last season.

With pre-season crowds up on last year and season ticket and membership sales already outstripping numbers sold over the whole of last season, Carroll was confident that target would be met.

The FFA hopes clubs with the biggest home grounds - Sydney's Aussie Stadium and Queensland's Suncorp Stadium - hit 25,000 in the next two to five years while a 10,000 average would be a success for smaller grounds, such as Perth's Members Equity Stadium.

FFA chief executive John O'Neill has identified improving on-field quality as vital for the A-League if it was to continue attracting crowds and sponsors.

He recently suggested a repatriation fund to help domestic clubs lure senior Socceroos home to take advantage their newfound star status.

But Carroll said the current state of the head body's finances meant that such a fund could not be the main thrust of the FFA's efforts to boost the level of competition.

"We're not endowed at this stage to go until a full-on repatriation scheme for the Socceroos," he said.

"Repatriation is just one aspect (of increasing on-field quality), it's not critical that that occurs in season 06/07.

"Would we like to be able to do more? Sure. We just can't afford it this stage."

Instead Carroll said that it would be exciting new players - homegrown, from Asia and South America - combined with better prepared coaches that would raise this season's A-League to a "far greater standard than last year".

Among the new recruits, Claudinho, Fred and Alessandro bring Brazilian flair to Melbourne while Queensland has just signed the 'Chinese David Beckham', Yuning Zhang.

A salary cap of $1.6 million is in place this year, increasing by $100,000 each year of the five-year club licences.

But Carroll did not rule out a review of the size, although not the existence, of the cap when those licenses expire.

Other potential innovations include microphones for the referee and assistants, and incorporating bonus points for high-scoring teams - as trialled in the pre-season cup bonus round this weekend - into next season's main competition.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/football/aleague-shoots-for-improved-onfield-quality/2006/08/02/1154198146661.html

futuremelvicstar
August 2nd, 2006, 10:53 AM
$100,000 is not bad it's great to know we are keeping the salary cap even after the 5 years it keeps everyone on a level playing field.

El Zilcho
August 2nd, 2006, 12:22 PM
Other potential innovations include microphones for the referee and assistants, and incorporating bonus points for high-scoring teams

Oh god no. I would seriously consider not going to matches if they introduced that. Just stick to the normal rules of the game, not stupid shit like that.

jonk
August 2nd, 2006, 12:28 PM
Same. Extra points have to die in the ass.

TopherPlus
August 2nd, 2006, 12:37 PM
If everygame was worth the same amount ( yet allowed bonus points) then i'll reserve my judgement until we see what effect it has on the game. If every team was able to get a bonus point in every match then its a level playing field. If it meant Adelaide's game style was punished then it could be good. I hate that uber-defensive shite.

The preseason model with one bonus round means that that one round could be worth more that the previous 3 combined. That's stupid.

XYNO
August 2nd, 2006, 12:44 PM
As posted by one of our forumites:

Take this hypothetical position, last game of the season and by chance the side second in the league (side A) is playing the side in 5th position (side B), side A needs 3 points to finish in top position and side B needs 3 points to finish in the top 4. Under a standard system its only possible for one of these sides to achieve their objective, under the bonus points system the FFA are using this week, both sides would achieve their objective with a 3-3 draw.

Not for one minute am I suggesting that the two teams will fix a result, I just feel that once both sides have achieved their objective the result in the game will be a secondary concern and the game will become non competitive, I can remember a WC group game a few years back, it was the last game and both sides were going through to the knock out if they both got a point, the game was a non event with half hour to go.

Matt Carroll Can stick his bonus points up his arse, along with all his other "innovative" ideas...

NEWS FLASH: The game is fine the way it is

bazza
August 2nd, 2006, 12:48 PM
Good point about getting better coaches- too much Anglo influence on the whole A-league. We want football to be going forwards into a more inteligent style of play just like Hiddink showed what Australians can do.

huzzman5
August 2nd, 2006, 12:53 PM
What makes a 1 year old League, playing a game that has been Mainstream for 5 minutes, think that they can mess with it. How about building an understanding of the game before changing it, Australia is about 100 years behind the rest of the world.

~LUFC~
August 2nd, 2006, 01:02 PM
Bonus points would be stupid. Theres no reason why a 1-0 result is not a good win. Any football fan should tell you the same. This is just stupid reasoning that the more goals you get the better match it is. Which seems very much the same as the AFL argument.

vbwhite
August 2nd, 2006, 01:48 PM
There really shouldn't be any gimmicks like the bonus point shite, and the use of mics on umpires would be crap, it's annoying enough in AFL. Who'd want to hear what those idiots have to say anyway?

Plus I don't think FIFA would take too lightly to any changes, I think they like to have control over any new so-called "innovations" within the game. We're not the AFL, we don't have to change our rules every 5 seconds.

gweeds
August 2nd, 2006, 02:03 PM
Smack of americanism to me.

jonk
August 2nd, 2006, 02:07 PM
If they consider it we can jsut bring big banners to OP

magpie
August 2nd, 2006, 02:50 PM
NO TO BONUS POINTS. This is not basketball.

Bendigo Blue
August 2nd, 2006, 03:00 PM
Matt Carroll Can stick his bonus points up his arse, along with all his other "innovative" ideas...

Perhaps someone should introduce Matt Carroll to a little organisation known as FIFA. Bonus points will not happen.

SMan
August 2nd, 2006, 03:01 PM
incorporating bonus points for high-scoring teams - as trialled in the pre-season cup bonus round this weekend - into next season's main competition.

Bugger off!!! Next they'll be giving points for missing a goal.

futuremelvicstar
August 2nd, 2006, 03:30 PM
The games fine how it is people who think a 1-0 win is a shit game because of lack of goals are just an un-educated AFL fan.

The K Man
August 2nd, 2006, 04:40 PM
Apparently only MVFC objected to this idea, check what Tony Ising wrote on the subject:
http://www.melbournevictory.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15591

Simon
August 2nd, 2006, 06:51 PM
No bonus points, no "repatriation".

Keep it real

...simesay

XYNO
August 3rd, 2006, 08:23 AM
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Clint
August 3rd, 2006, 08:49 AM
NO to this stupid bonus points shit. The FFA can expect a lot of anger if they go through with this rubbish. I'm against it because the very idea of bonus points smacks of a tacky gimmick designed to whip up artificially created goals and higher scoring matches. I don't see how the introduction of bonus points would suddenly bring in more fans. If anything, it would just risk pissing a lot of people off. Just leave the game alone. Please.

I'm glad Melbourne Victory has taken a stance against bonus points.

El Zilcho
August 3rd, 2006, 09:11 AM
Perhaps someone should introduce Matt Carroll to a little organisation known as FIFA. Bonus points will not happen.

Unfortunatley FIFA has no control over the rules system in national leagues. For example in the early days MLS (they have since been dropped):

- the clock stopped whenever a free kick was given, and counted down instead of up.

- A strange penalty shootout system decided any drawn games, where the penalty taker would get the ball further out and dribble it up to the box before shooting. The winner would then get 1 point.