VPL rumours etc etc

[nonna]

So........ Bulleen "hooking up with" whittlesea and leaving venoto club?

sunshine georgies making it a 15 team VPL league?

any more rumours?

[acmilan_victory]

I can confirm that Bulleen and Whittlesea will be called the Whittlesea Zebras from next season onwards.

[Ascoli Calcio]

Bulleen leaving Veneto Club is a fact, I've got a mate whose old man is pretty high up over there. They said they wanted to fund the women's basketball and bocce.

And yes, it'll be Whittlesea.

Good ones nadj :cool:

[acmilan_victory]

Ive also heard the Oakleigh and South Melbourne r looking to merge.

[Simon]

Ive also heard the Oakleigh and South Melbourne r looking to merge.
Serious? Would be huge if true...

[kelep]

Ive also heard the Oakleigh and South Melbourne r looking to merge.

as if thatl ever happen

[MDL]

Diaco to go to SM......

[Ascoli Calcio]

Ive also heard the Oakleigh and South Melbourne r looking to merge.Serious? I heard Melbourne Knights wanted to merge with Springvale White Eagles, and it was South Melbourne and Preston Lions! :D :D

[Jony]

So what happens to the Veneto Club now?

[nonna]

Essendon look like having their own home ground.... where it used to be..

Its "meant" to be there/grown by in Feb '07.... I wouldnt bet anything by '08.

[MDL]

So what happens to the Veneto Club now?

Massive junior club who are already short of grounds.

[nonna]

So what happens to the Veneto Club now?

veneto and bulleen are seperate entate's (sp)

essendon will be playing at veneto at least till mid season.

[Jony]

So Essendon will play at the Veneto club even though it is no where near Essendon?

:confused:

[Ascoli Calcio]

Essendon did this year.

The Juniors play at perhaps the shittest ground in the FFV, Ormond Park.

[MDL]

That is shit news if Bulleen is moving....Monday night games at the Ven were the best.....

[nonna]

yes, well bulleen.... have not been paying their debts or something.....

[take_no_prisoners]

yes, well bulleen.... have not been paying their debts or something.....

i found out couple fridays ago, i was pretty dissapointed being a junior player myself...

if you ask me, i reckon theres some shifty business going on...
bulleen clearly doesnt need any sort of cash/help from other clubs

[GiGi]

Essendon look like having their own home ground.... where it used to be..

Its "meant" to be there/grown by in Feb '07.... I wouldnt bet anything by '08.

that was the best fuckin pitch ive ever played on!
have you seen our training grounds now? their fuckin dug up with fuckin sand!! FUCKIN!

[take_no_prisoners]

nevertheless, i still beleive it wont be long before another local team will be playing at the veneto. those pitches will not go unplayed on...

possible buyout in the next couple seasons i reckon

[Melbourne Boys]

South Melbourne in deep trouble

Board members resigning.... trouble everywhere

[nonna]

that was the best fuckin pitch ive ever played on!
have you seen our training grounds now? their fuckin dug up with fuckin sand!! FUCKIN!


Who's "our training ground"?

at the moment essendon's future ground is dirt and seedlings.... It used to be an alright ground to play on (have played there a dozen of times).

I'm sure it will be a brilliant ground again.

Does anything know anythin furdther regarding the sunshine bullsgit?


I know 100% THat sunshines coach will be Chris Taylor.... He's awesome. yum.

[nonna]

South Melbourne in deep trouble

Board members resigning.... trouble everywhere


really?

[trelos]

we had a few board members resign because they did not see eye to eye with the rest of the board

[take_no_prisoners]

we had a few board members resign because they did not see eye to eye with the rest of the board

a shambles....

[Melbourne Boys]

And why didn't they see eye to eye

[stinger]

we had a few board members resign because they did not see eye to eye with the rest of the board

not happy about the ammount of garlic sauce on the souvas?

[LS 11]

This would be of interest to know - not in a "Bash Souths" way but to see where the No1 VPL side is headed, and dare I say it, what the floew on effect of the A-League could be doing to some smaller clubs

[stinger]

This would be of interest to know - not in a "Bash Souths" way but to see where the No1 VPL side is headed, and dare I say it, what the floew on effect of the A-League could be doing to some smaller clubs

i would think that there should be a positive effect with more interest in the game being generated.

[golazo]

How could you leave the Venetoooo club, I love the Venetooooo club :mad:

[MDL]

And why didn't they see eye to eye

because they were pro-Victory.....& that is a no no at South...

[nonna]

How could you leave the Venetoooo club, I love the Venetooooo club :mad:

I don';t think it was them leaing veneto.... but veneto kicking them out. ;)

[MDL]

I don';t think it was them leaing veneto.... but veneto kicking them out. ;)

Really? Ive got a mate who is pretty close to things down there...might have to pay him a visit in Lygon St, kiss is hand & then ask what is going on, although then I will owe him & will be forced to carry out a hit on someone....:)

[nonna]

Really? Ive got a mate who is pretty close to things down there...might have to pay him a visit in Lygon St, kiss is hand & then ask what is going on, although then I will owe him & will be forced to carry out a hit on someone....:)

yep.... things I hear is that bulleen were gettinhg alot of their foot and drinks from veneto... but not actually paying them for it after their contract ran out.

[MDL]

yep.... things I hear is that bulleen were gettinhg alot of their foot and drinks from veneto... but not actually paying them for it after their contract ran out.

Cheeky pricks.....mmmmm & this happened right after Diaco joined....interesting....;)

[Victory2006]

Serious? I heard Melbourne Knights wanted to merge with Springvale White Eagles, and it was South Melbourne and Preston Lions! :D :D

How glorious would that be? :D

We'd never have to wait for a derby to see a brawl, it'll happen every match. :D

Loving Fawkner back at Jukes. I'll now be back to watch them regularly.

[nonna]

How glorious would that be? :D

We'd never have to wait for a derby to see a brawl, it'll happen every match. :D

Loving Fawkner back at Jukes. I'll now be back to watch them regularly.

I can guarantee great food at every match.

[Blackmissionary]

because they were pro-Victory.....& that is a no no at South...

If reports are true, probably because they are more pro Victory (and other groups) at the expense of South itself, which frankly isn't in their job description. One would think being on the South board that they are there to help South first above all others. Things will become clearer at the AGM i'm guessing, but we've been through worse anyway.

I'm surprised the really big rumour hasnt been posted yet, that there will be no relegation next season because of reforms the FFV are perhaps to put in place in 2008, making clubs apply for a place in the VPL based on facilities, finances etc.

[traja47]

I heard, while shopping at Bunnings, conversation between two plumbers that Kingston wants to take over Bentleigh Greens ground, Kingston Heath Soccer Complex.

[MDL]

If reports are true, probably because they are more pro Victory (and other groups) at the expense of South itself, which frankly isn't in their job description. One would think being on the South board that they are there to help South first above all others. Things will become clearer at the AGM i'm guessing, but we've been through worse anyway.

I'm surprised the really big rumour hasnt been posted yet, that there will be no relegation next season because of reforms the FFV are perhaps to put in place in 2008, making clubs apply for a place in the VPL based on facilities, finances etc.

Really...so we will have a VPL comp with 3 teams if those criteria is what they go on?....:)

[Blackmissionary]

Well, South, Preston, Knights, and possibly Springvale White Eagles on fans, money and facilities. Oakleigh perhaps if they get that 500 seat grandstand built. Snd for padding it out, Heidelberg, just for laughs, to either see them go amazingly shit or have a decent season but fall at the last hurdle again. And Franskton Pines, Franston Strikers and Langwarrin for derbies for them, and more road trips for the rest of us. And Richmond because they have a an awesome social club. Interesting to see how Fawkner go next year as well. Of course ground rationalisation may also be a part of the reforms, which would be sad if true, part of the appeal of the state leagues is going to all the different grounds.

[AVFC88]

Blackmissionary;

Ive heard that rumour about no relgation from a VERY good source. VPL re-branding sort of thing.

And MDL plenty of teams will be able to qualify, but imo shocking move. Killing smaller clubs. No more VPL fairytales - eg Pines making final in first year in VPL :(

[Victory2006]

Shithouse move. It kills off the development of players and clubs from nothing.

They seem to be following the lead of the fucked up NSWPL, which is run by a corrupted bunch of cu*ts. Will be a sad day if true.

[nonna]

I'm surprised the really big rumour hasnt been posted yet, .

this thread did only start a few hours ago.

[MDL]

And MDL plenty of teams will be able to qualify,

Not if facilities is a criteria.......

[Blackmissionary]

Blackmissionary;

Ive heard that rumour about no relgation from a VERY good source. VPL re-branding sort of thing.

And MDL plenty of teams will be able to qualify, but imo shocking move. Killing smaller clubs. No more VPL fairytales - eg Pines making final in first year in VPL :(

I hope at least that ground rationalisation is not part of it, especially if teams put the effort in to get half-decent facilities. But yes, sad day for smaller clubs who get to the top on playing merit even if they don't splash the cash around like it was the European Cup as opposed to a semi-pro suburban comp.

But also don't sell the Pines short! They were in Vic top flight in the 1980's and even came 2nd in 1986.

[nonna]

vagina's aparent

[TP]

this is gay. this is super hyper mega gay...if true.

[LS 11]

2 things that cause a traditional "non-supporter", who is now somewhat interested, to think of a few points....

1. If "finance" is to be an factor in determining the status, why is South melb guaranteed a place? If Souths were to do a Souths of a few years back would they be kicked out?

2. When the A-league came in the biggest complaint from VPL supporters was it damaged to jpes and aspirations of VPL and below type clubs. Now the VPL is doing this itself to set up an elitist level of football

Will relegation be re-introduced later on?

Is this just a power grab by the NSL, oops sorry the VPL clubs?

What future do up and coming teams have? Take a side similar to Richmond, who have worked their way up - will they make it in or do they have to mortgage their sole to built a stand or somesuch thing

Why are facilities such an issue? The average crowds are less than 1,000 so what facilities do you needs - a few trees for having a piss behind, plenty of cold beer and one sausage sixzzle would cover it i reckon

[Blackmissionary]

2 things that cause a traditional "non-supporter", who is now somewhat interested, to think of a few points....

1. If "finance" is to be an factor in determining the status, why is South melb guaranteed a place? If Souths were to do a Souths of a few years back would they be kicked out?

It must be remembered that one of the reasons that South almost went belly up was because of the end of the NSL itself, which deprived it of gate takings and sponsorship revenues and such. And of course they weren't the only NSL club to suffer from that transition, just the most extreme example.

2. When the A-league came in the biggest complaint from VPL supporters was it damaged to jpes and aspirations of VPL and below type clubs. Now the VPL is doing this itself to set up an elitist level of football

Well, i personally didn't think this was true actually, as most teams had no chance (let alone any real aspiration) of even competing in the NSL anyway, let alone the A League.

The FFV is obviously worried about clubs coming up to the VPL, who rather than merely being satisfied with competing and survival, are aiming for success at any cost (as well as being forced to up the ante in order to survive). And i'm guessing it's that ''any cost'' mentality in particular, focused entirely on winning, which even if does come, gains only a small monetary reward at the end of the season. And if success doesn't come, players aren't getting paid, bills become overdue, facilities are being ignored, clubs teetering close to going under because they're focused on only one thing, not good for the game in general.

As well, of course they're thinking about the product. Better facilities for fans, better grounds (and facilities) for players, ability to show more games and more clubs on tv because they have the required stuff for tv (especially if there is a remote chance on getting it on pay tv). Another question they've probably asked themselves is, does the state have enough depth of clubs and players to be able to effectively run a promotion/relegation system? And there's the NSWPL experiment which they're obviously following closely, which for some has been a success, and for others, a disaster, but someone from NSW would be in a better position to tell us about that.

Will relegation be re-introduced later on?

Is this just a power grab by the NSL, oops sorry the VPL clubs?

Speculation is that it may be reintroduced, or like NSWPL, the teams will be reviewed every now and again. There's really only 2 NSL clubs in the VPL as far as i'm concerned, that being South and Knights. Knights because they were there from 1984 to the end, and South because they were there the whole way through (and longer than they've been in the Vic leagues). The rest haven't had a presence in the national league for over a decade.

What future do up and coming teams have? Take a side similar to Richmond, who have worked their way up - will they make it in or do they have to mortgage their sole to built a stand or somesuch thing

Why are facilities such an issue? The average crowds are less than 1,000 so what facilities do you needs - a few trees for having a piss behind, plenty of cold beer and one sausage sixzzle would cover it i reckon

You could say that Richmond worked their way up, but they also have a what some would term a sugar daddy willing to put in the cash. Pines are a better example of working their way up. I guess the FFV would say, are these teams going to actually be worse off by being in the VPL? If so, should they be in there in the first place? Does it help the game in general if clubs go broke trying to win (or survive) at all costs?

[Victory Fan]

No relegation will be a good move for the change to 'new football'. It will make stronger clubs at the top of the state and allow 'new football' supporters to follow the aleague in the summer and then have a good quality of footbal lto watch in the winter.

As long as South is in the top league I'm more than happy for this to happen.

Improving the standard (both on and off the field) of the top level will make it easier to implement a FA Cup style competition as well.

[LS 11]

Actually Black missionary, Id like to thanks\ you for the repsonse tho a few questions I asked still remian unanswered

I understand your thoughts and point of view, but IF what you are suggesting is on the money, I, personally, am more and more AGAINST this whole effort. Reasons being:

an elitist set up. I say a side from Cranbourne as an example, with huge growth, translates into a strong side. The suggestion is that team wouldnt get into the VPL. The example of a sugar daddy at Richmond also applies to Essendon and Im sure a few others so whats wrong with theat method?

lack of interest. If you have a no relegation system, then the only interest is the grand final. Why not have the interest in a relegation battle. Also you end up with NZ Knights type teams or Fitzroy AFL sides who are perennially holding up mthe leagues and are an embarrasment to the leagues as a whole

And reality check - do we really think VPL is EVER going to be on Pay Tv? Well if they ever open up Fox Sports 8 then you have a chance

Sorry, but if those goes against the "other" clubs, i will be dead against the VPL (note I said VPL and not the clubs involved!!) and will spend my offseason watching leagues that, dare I say it, actually matter

[Blackmissionary]

Actually Black missionary, Id like to thanks\ you for the repsonse tho a few questions I asked still remian unanswered

I understand your thoughts and point of view, but IF what you are suggesting is on the money, I, personally, am more and more AGAINST this whole effort.

I would just like to clarify that what i've written above does not necessarily relect my point of view, rather an assemblage of what i've read on soccerforum (where most people without 'high level contacts' get their info from), TWG Forum (for NSWPL info) and also playing devil's advocate, to try and figure out the FFV's reasoning.

Reasons being:

an elitist set up. I say a side from Cranbourne as an example, with huge growth, translates into a strong side. The suggestion is that team wouldnt get into the VPL. The example of a sugar daddy at Richmond also applies to Essendon and Im sure a few others so whats wrong with theat method?

Especially pertinent since Cranbourne Comets made their way up to State 1 this year. I guess what could been seen to be wrong with that method is that if the sugar daddy(s) grow weary of pumping money into their clubs, these teams are stuffed, and they'll either go broke or force the juniors to cough up (again). Probably not such a problem in Essendon and Richmond's case, as (from a distance) those guys seem committed, but its going to very, very interesting to see how Kingston goes next year.

lack of interest. If you have a no relegation system, then the only interest is the grand final. Why not have the interest in a relegation battle. Also you end up with NZ Knights type teams or Fitzroy AFL sides who are perennially holding up mthe leagues and are an embarrasment to the leagues as a whole

Agreed. Or Parramatta Eagles in NSWPL who just about went to the wall this year apparently. My preference would be for a 12 team league, 5 team finals, 14 team state 1. Though 14 teams is not a bad system for VPL, just about the right amount of games.

And reality check - do we really think VPL is EVER going to be on Pay Tv? Well if they ever open up Fox Sports 8 then you have a chance

Well, there was talk of the NSWPL being on pay tv (and both the NSWPL and VPL finals were on the aurora channel), but again i agree with you, VPL is really the kind of comp where it's best to get down and dirty with everyone else.

Sorry, but if those goes against the "other" clubs, i will be dead against the VPL (note I said VPL and not the clubs involved!!) and will spend my offseason watching leagues that, dare I say it, actually matter

The only thing that makes me even consider the (alleged rumoured) proposals as a solution is that there is a problem, and it's potentially tiny now to what could come. The problem is as stated, that most clubs may not be able to function in the VPL, and there is a need to figure out some way of keeping clubs competitive on the field and in the black and thriving off it.

[TP]

i think promotion/relegation should stay

would keep clubs accountable and keep tyrants out of the game

[box]

South Melbourne in deep trouble

Board members resigning.... trouble everywhere


you talk to much crap
go back to nth terrace

[MDL]

you talk to much crap
go back to nth terrace

Not total crap...there is alot of angst over the board mebers resignations, the club is not in trouble, although the ship is leaking & taking water. Lots of $$$ walked out the door with them, & the board that is left is putting out some serious spin (which all boards do) before the AGM....

[hellas7]

If anyone knew what those board members were up to then you would know that South is MUCH BETTER OFF however of course theirs gonna be angst when a board breaks into certain factions, at the end of the day this is p1ss weak compared to what South has been through in the past so to say we are in "deep trouble" is laughable.

New president is in as well and expecting some very good signings to be confirmed very soon, you would have to think that the upcoming AGM will be one of the most fascinating in the clubs history.

[box]

our pres walked
he was our major sponsor, he was the only $$$$ to walk.
the rest were more worried about their image in the greek community than they were about the good of the club.
one of the major issues was re: victory using BJS for pre-season games.
the club were happy to allow you to use the ground, but waned to be compensated for it. 2-3 directors were opposed to this, they wanted to give the ground away RENT FREE.
NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
nothing is for free.
issues like this have caused the split, not anything to do with future plans or direction of club.

[MDL]

you would have to think that the upcoming AGM will be one of the most fascinating in the clubs history.
LOL...can u get a DVD of it hellas7....it would be a top seller....

[hellas7]

They also wanted to give bjs to the track and field clowns, i think the image has a lot to do with it as well...certain board members couldnt get their heads out of the greek paper, luckilly this was kept swept under the carpet during the season.

Basically you had pro south board members and pro victory/athletics/pics in greek paper board members, they split into 2 factions and its all come out now, interesting stuff!

[MDL]

our pres walked
he was our major sponsor, he was the only $$$$ to walk.
the rest were more worried about their image in the greek community than they were about the good of the club.
one of the major issues was re: victory using BJS for pre-season games.
the club were happy to allow you to use the ground, but waned to be compensated for it. 2-3 directors were opposed to this, they wanted to give the ground away RENT FREE.
NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
nothing is for free.
issues like this have caused the split, not anything to do with future plans or direction of club.

Some truth there but there is more to it........they saw a closer alignment to MVFC as a good PR exercise to achieve a A-League licence, & I agree with them.....where as the others are anti-Victory full stop.....& if you think a President & 3 board members walking out from a club is not a crisis, you need to think again mate, this would be a crisis if it happened at Camberwell Junior Netball Club....like I said the club isn't in trouble, but this is big....the current board has no idea IMO.

[box]

Good relations with the victory dont pay the bills mate.
I for one would like to see us come to an arrnagement for you to use our ground, but not for free.
Some/alot of STH people are anti-victory, but they're more PRO-STH than anything.
I am over the whole issue, just want to see my team survive and prosper.

[MDL]

Good relations with the victory dont pay the bills mate.
I for one would like to see us come to an arrnagement for you to use our ground, but not for free.
Some/alot of STH people are anti-victory, but they're more PRO-STH than anything.
I am over the whole issue, just want to see my team survive and prosper.

Fair enough.......I would say the anti-Victory people are a vocal minority & that's who the board is stupidly listening to....many old SM people at our games who love it.......
but agree, Im also over it, will see you at Bulleen/Whittleseas/Ballarat/Wodonga Zebras Azzuri Blues Hillbillies.....

[box]

Fair enough.......I would say the anti-Victory people are a vocal minority & that's who the board is stupidly listening to....many old SM people at our games who love it.......
but agree, Im also over it, will see you at Bulleen/Whittleseas/Ballarat/Wodonga Zebras Azzuri Blues Hillbillies.....


LOL................

[jimihendrix70]

That is shit news if Bulleen is moving....Monday night games at the Ven were the best.....

oh fk those were the days i loved watching the monday night games

[footballmagic]

I'm a bulleen supporter and also play there, disappointed at what has happened but the deal with Whittlesea is not final. The veneto club are fighting this so don't believe everything you hear.

[TP]

yeah i hope like hell they stay

KB reserve is a shit place to go and watch games, i don't want that to be the only ground i can get too easily. the parking situation around heidelberg is a stinker.

[jimihendrix70]

I'm a bulleen supporter and also play there, disappointed at what has happened but the deal with Whittlesea is not final. The veneto club are fighting this so don't believe everything you hear.

its a done deal mate bulleen have been merging for years

[hellas7]

Another sad story for italian-australian football!

[jimihendrix70]

Another sad story for italian-australian football!

its fkd its started with bulleen + Brunswick + box hill then i think it was
thomastown + all of the above and now whittlesea who i think has already merged with fawkner????

[hellas7]

its fkd its started with bulleen + Brunswick + box hill then i think it was
thomastown + all of the above and now whittlesea who i think has already merged with fawkner????

I know, what is it with this trend though? fawkner will be going at it alone now but i dont get why all these Italian clubs merge, die off or simply arent cared for, their doesnt seem to be much pride in these clubs or interest for that matter, and this is even going back to brunswick in the early 90s.

[cama]

I live with someone who plays for Gully but hes Tasmanian so it doesnt matter....

[footballmagic]

It is a done deal between the Bulleen Board and the Whittlesea Board (mainly the chicken man) but the Veneto Club is fighting it.

[jimihendrix70]

I know, what is it with this trend though? fawkner will be going at it alone now but i dont get why all these Italian clubs merge, die off or simply arent cared for, their doesnt seem to be much pride in these clubs or interest for that matter, and this is even going back to brunswick in the early 90s.

yeah i live in bulleen but played soccer for brunswick for 10 years before they merged with bulleen and i was fkn guttered i loved brunswick then i had to change clubs if i ever wanted a chance to play in the seniors

so i went to bulleen and there all fkd up wankas that run the shit there and it shows
thats why they have to merge every few years

its just no-one cares and its the juniors that hurt the most

what annoys me is they merge with clubs like whittlesea :confused: there goes my support for them how the fk am i suppossed to get there every week?

[footballmagic]

its fkd its started with bulleen + Brunswick + box hill then i think it was
thomastown + all of the above and now whittlesea who i think has already merged with fawkner????

Basically Brunswick Juventus and Whittlesea have gone to the other Italian Clubs to merge with and have wrecked them. when they "officially" get together they will destroy themselves within 2 - 3 years.

[jimihendrix70]

Basically Brunswick Juventus and Whittlesea have gone to the other Italian Clubs to merge with and have wrecked them. when they "officially" get together they will destroy themselves within 2 - 3 years.

yeah thats a fkn shame i loved the brunswick zebras

[footballmagic]

yeah i live in bulleen but played soccer for brunswick for 10 years before they merged with bulleen and i was fkn guttered i loved brunswick then i had to change clubs if i ever wanted a chance to play in the seniors

so i went to bulleen and there all fkd up wankas that run the shit there and it shows
thats why they have to merge every few years

its just no-one cares and its the juniors that hurt the most

what annoys me is they merge with clubs like whittlesea :confused: there goes my support for them how the fk am i suppossed to get there every week?

yeah true that the juniors hurt the most, but also the players are being fkd over as they have no say.

Most of the bulleen players don't want to leave the Veneto Club.

[take_no_prisoners]

Really? Ive got a mate who is pretty close to things down there...might have to pay him a visit in Lygon St, kiss is hand & then ask what is going on, although then I will owe him & will be forced to carry out a hit on someone....:)

are you taking the piss or do you know a lygon st figure?;)

[take_no_prisoners]

yeah true that the juniors hurt the most, but also the players are being fkd over as they have no say.

Most of the bulleen players don't want to leave the Veneto Club.

its bullshit... bulleen certainly one of the best junior clubs around, if not the best, now has no where for their juniors to go...

bulleen reserves was a prospect this year, but now either 18super at bulleen, or booting off elsewhere...

its crazy..

[take_no_prisoners]

just back from bulleen info night
points to note
- whittlesea zebras confirmed
- bulleen will field a seniors team next year (from ground up)
- "apparently" 2008 sees a new format VPL in which the veneto club will apply for a position and most likely gain.

[wizza]

So that means Fawkner are seperate again?
But i thought they got relegated a few seasons back while by themselves? (or was that whittlesea?)
Anyway... whoever got relegated that time should go down... mergers are shit... unless they last forever... makes a mockery of the competition

[jimihendrix70]

yeah fawkner are on thier own again

[Blackmissionary]

So that means Fawkner are seperate again?
But i thought they got relegated a few seasons back while by themselves? (or was that whittlesea?)
Anyway... whoever got relegated that time should go down... mergers are shit... unless they last forever... makes a mockery of the competition

Though largely unsuccessful, Fawkner prior to the merger were in the VPL between 1983-2004 without being relegated. Whittlesea got relegated in 2004 but the merger with Fawkner allowed them to stay in the vpl, likewise their merger with Bulleen Zebras is theoretically at least allowing them to stay in vpl. What would have happened to Whittlesea had the merger with Bulleen not gone ahead, i don't know.

[Ascoli Calcio]

Not VPL but new Essendon senior coach WILL BE Garry Groenwald, previously of Heidelberg Reserves.

[wizza]

Though largely unsuccessful, Fawkner prior to the merger were in the VPL between 1983-2004 without being relegated. Whittlesea got relegated in 2004 but the merger with Fawkner allowed them to stay in the vpl, likewise their merger with Bulleen Zebras is theoretically at least allowing them to stay in vpl. What would have happened to Whittlesea had the merger with Bulleen not gone ahead, i don't know.

Ohh i see mate... i thought fawkner were the team that went down... clearly i should do more research b4 i open my big mouth.

Thanks for that mate :D

[TP]

essendon any chance of winning thier appeal?

i really need a team playing at veneto next season otherwise i can chose from heidelberg or oakleigh as my closest team

[take_no_prisoners]

essendon any chance of winning thier appeal?

i really need a team playing at veneto next season otherwise i can chose from heidelberg or oakleigh as my closest team

there will be a senior team at the vento next season (in prov league that is)

[wizza]

there will be a senior team at the vento next season (in prov league that is)

U still reckon they will play on Monday nights? :hungry: lol

How about this... we shift the might Pines up that way... we call it home... and we get into the VPL for 2008! bahahahahaha!:lol: :lol: :lol:

[footballmagic]

just back from bulleen info night
points to note
- whittlesea zebras confirmed
- bulleen will field a seniors team next year (from ground up)
- "apparently" 2008 sees a new format VPL in which the veneto club will apply for a position and most likely gain.

My Parents were at the meeting too and they said that "Whittlesea Zebras" has been confirmed between Whittlesea and Bullen, but it still hasn't been put to the FFV as a new club. The Veneto club will fight them for the license as things have not been done properly.

[take_no_prisoners]

U still reckon they will play on Monday nights? :hungry: lol

How about this... we shift the might Pines up that way... we call it home... and we get into the VPL for 2008! bahahahahaha!:lol: :lol: :lol:

from what i understand, essendon is playing games at the VC.

[take_no_prisoners]

My Parents were at the meeting too and they said that "Whittlesea Zebras" has been confirmed between Whittlesea and Bullen, but it still hasn't been put to the FFV as a new club. The Veneto club will fight them for the license as things have not been done properly.

the biggest hurdle is the agreement between the clubs. That has been done and dusted, so i cant see why the FFV would reject the application...

[VICTORY*PRIDE]

whats this i hear about there being 8 teams and No relagations?

[Rizzo]

Nah im a Doncaster Rovers boy...Bulleen and Doncaster dont mix.
What happens to the Bulleen Juniors???

[MDL]

from what i understand, essendon is playing games at the VC.

also heard a lower division club could play there...maybe Templestowe Eagles?

[Seb]

also heard a lower division club could play there...maybe Templestowe Eagles?

That would make sense. In closeness and ethnic background.

[take_no_prisoners]

Nah im a Doncaster Rovers boy...Bulleen and Doncaster dont mix.
What happens to the Bulleen Juniors???

juniors remain as is. whether or not the players want to play at a team where VPL seniors is not an option for 2007 is another thing.

[MDL]

That would make sense. In closeness and ethnic background.

yeh...shame to let that ground stay empty...bloody good ground.........Bulleen has 28 junior teams (most very strong teams) & has to turn kids away every year. The 2 closets clubs Manningham & Doncaster Rovers are just about full & Manningham has no extra grounds to use, don't know about Rovers but don't think they have any extra room either.....

[MDL]

juniors remain as is. whether or not the players want to play at a team where VPL seniors is not an option for 2007 is another thing.

good to hear......

[trelos]

heard that Yusef Yusef and Nathan Caldwell have signed for South

[nonna]

heard that Yusef Yusef


I loooooooooooove Yousef Yousef. :love: so lovely.

[nonna]

and a top player.