Was Foster out of line?

[bazza]

Just want to survey the thoughts on Fozzie's confronting interview with Ange Postecoglu.

[azza]

yes

[Socceroo_06]

yes, definately.

[Cafu]

It's not what he did it's the way he did it.

having said that, I don't think either him or ange were particulalry professional about it.

Entertaining though.

[s3tTz]

Not necessarily out of line to tell Ange that he should be sacked. But he made himself look like a prize dick.

[Cala]

no...he went about it the wrong way but i agree with him.
Ange should fuck off

[aussie_ascoli]

i rate passion highly. Bit of passion is great.

[T-Mac69]

What happended? :confused:

[bazza]

"I think you should resign, so will you?"
"you are paid to get results and you failed both times...take responsability"

[Cala]

maybe Foster wants the job? :)

[T-Mac69]

Did he say that to Ange? :eek:

Gezz thats abit rough, doing it on Live TV.

[Jack XR6T]

Fozzie was right to question him, I just don't agree with the way he went about it, very unprofessional. And instead of putting Fozzie back in his box Ange took the bait and argued back... stupid.

Jack

[DA_DON]

If anyone has recored the interview...would be appreciated greatly if you could upload it to youtube.

Was a classic interview.

[Cala]

agree was great tv.

[Rob]

No he was spot on.

Told it how it is.

[T-Mac69]

If anyone has recored the interview...would be appreciated greatly if you could upload it to youtube.

Was a classic interview.

Yeah, would love to see it. :playball:

[goodbyeafl]

fozzie was right. Ange is just an average coach. A heated interview like that is good for football

[Abdallah]

He had ever right to say what he wanted nd was right...though it was quite embarrassing for ange.

[aussie_ascoli]

i've never seen Fozzie so angry. Ange would of hit him if he was in studio.

[redda2]

Foster is probably right, but it could've been more professional though. I found it very entertaining, thought Ange was going to lose it.

Btw, i didnt know we drew with Laos

[azza]

Foster is probably right, but it could've been more professional though. I found it very entertaining, thought Ange was going to lose it.

Btw, i didnt know we drew with Laos

which is what I have been on about... the lack of coverage and recognition for our youths

[Doidinha]

Yes fozzie is fighting fit !:tongue1: :israel: :flame:

[aussie_ascoli]

I thought Ange was going to walk out, that would of been the funniest thing.

[~LUFC~]

Fozzie was alright, but Ange just made a complete fool of himself. Once Ange made it into an argument, u cant really blame CF what what he said. he got a bit over heated maybe but Ange was acting like a school kid. It was laughable, everyones heard how he blames the players continously but he denies it once confonted. The mans a joke, and obviously needs a bit of media training too!

[dechamp]

The World Game is like the Herald Sun: blow everything out of proportion

[vbwhite]

Fozzie was alright, but Ange just made a complete fool of himself. Once Ange made it into an argument, u cant really blame CF what what he said. he got a bit over heated maybe but Ange was acting like a school kid. It was laughable, everyones heard how he blames the players continously but he denies it once confonted. The mans a joke, and obviously needs a bit of media training too!

Agree, although the style of Fozzie's attack was inappropriate, Ange's complete inability to defend his coaching record properly and coherantly was a telling point. All he did was have cracks at Craig's "expertise", he really did lose the plot himself. For evading difficult questions, Ange needs some advice from Johnny Howard.

[redda2]

Found the 2nd half on the adelaide forums

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6u8LoGpvKk&eurl=

[bazza]

After watching the interview again, Ange brought it upon himself. He personalised the interview and turned it into a farce.

[Dashgar]

I didn't see it but i vote no. As a person from the media you can ask questions that you want. Sure it may mean Ange nevers comes back to SBS but if Fozzie has any morals he is going to say what he means and not give the generic, bad luck and what are your plans interview.

Hope these sorts of interviews are used when a guy like Mark Rudan comes on the show after he has kicked Alessandro when he's lying on the ground.

[Seb]

I'll reserve my judgement till I see it.

[Victorious]

Ange is a total fucking idiot who doesn't want to take responsibility. Wanker, sack him.

[ppops]

NO good on him for speaking his mind....

[azza]

NO good on him for speaking his mind....

he could have done it within reason and with intelligence

[Socceroo_06]

Just watched the interview on youtube and Ange said the most important thing in the whole interview.
"I will put up with the scrutiny and criticism, provided it's informed, not ignorant and not agenda-based".
^^^^
These three words sum up what this SBS interview was:
-Ill informed
-Ignorant
-Agenda-based

[mlmorris]

Good on Fozzie for saying what so many of us have for the past week or so.

[LS 11]

From all accounts yet another hatchet job by CockFoster

Cala's comment (i know it had a smiley after it)...
maybe Foster wants the job?

Is laughable - he did the same to Butcher, yet constantly fails to offer himself as anything better or have any other better solutions

Ange prob has to go as the results are dire, but do you think you'll ever see CockFoster putting his hand up to do anything better? :crazy:

Ah well some things never change

[El Zilcho]

do you think you'll ever see CockFoster putting his hand up to do anything better? :crazy:

Hardly the point. He is a journalist - it is his job to scrutinize those involved with the sport. Do you see Kerry O'Brien or George Negus putting up their hand to be PM just because they criticise politicians? Of course not, because its their job to scrutinize politicians, not to be one.

I really think Ange acted like a fool in the interview, at times he sounded like a schoolboy arguing with his parents. He has failed to deliver results, and has to be prepared to either accept the flack, or resign. Simple as that. As Foster said, we didnt expect the teams to beat Brazil/France/Holland and win the World Championship, just to beat the likes of Laos and China. It wasnt a big ask with what we have, but it didnt get done. Do Laos have a better technical development system than us? Of course not. Were our players better than Laos? Yes. So who else to blame but the coach?

[Socceroo_06]

Here is the youtube link for your enjoyment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6u8LoGpvKk

[~LUFC~]

I think the problem was that Ange obviously knew he was going to cop it so he went straight into the interview in defensive mode. Foster was just saying what a lot of people think. Just reminds me of Farina, well worse that Farina actually. we should be over accepting mediocrity, think thats basically what Foster was saying.

[TheStartingLine]

Fozzie is the man! I love him

[MVFC_Lad]

well are you going too?
sorry?
are you going to resing then, thats the next question


hahaha

[irish]

nope he was just speaking his mind

[azza]

What technical quality China has? well... all experts believe China ahs a top quality youth team, in fact higher than Australia, technically and tactically...

Fozzie you have NO clue

[futuremelvicstar]

Just watched the interview on youtube and Ange said the most important thing in the whole interview.
"I will put up with the scrutiny and criticism, provided it's informed, not ignorant and not agenda-based".
^^^^
These three words sum up what this SBS interview was:
-Ill informed
-Ignorant
-Agenda-based

exactly right i love Fozzie but he was out of line.

[El Zilcho]

What technical quality China has? well... all experts believe China ahs a top quality youth team, in fact higher than Australia, technically and tactically...

Why did they lose to Jordan then? His criticism is of Ange's coaching, not Australia's technical quality. Ange cant do anything about that, he can however get us past a poor Chinese team who get beaten by an even poorer one in the quarter finals.

[azza]

Why did they lose to Jordan then? His criticism is of Ange's coaching, not Australia's technical quality. Ange cant do anything about that, he can however get us past a poor Chinese team who get beaten by an even poorer one in the quarter finals.

They were cocky in the 1/4 final, China's team was technically and tactically superior to Australia

[Bacardi 8]

:eek: I cant beleive he did that on live tv, i voted yes even though i didnt watch it, it was out of line saying that live on tv!

[VICTORY*PRIDE]

yes he was!
that was a descrace!

[El Zilcho]

tactically superior to Australia

There's your key. Tactically superior because Ange has them playing shit football, when they are capable of much better. Whether they are "technically" better at that age has very little to do with it.

[VictoryIsMine]

i thought it was funny how foster didnt know what to call the people from Jordan..
"the (long pause) jordanians"

[Popos]

Yes, Fozzie has a right to critcise Postecoglou but considering he actually went on the program, shows he was willing to accept criticism and not just hiding from it.

That kind of interview technique from Foster can guarantee even less communication with the FFA, very unprofessional.

I'm actually surprised Fozzie had an all out attack on Postecoglou, and ignored the many intervening factors which led to failure, which could be sorted out by a proper TD. But considering Postecoglou was on and he probably wouldn't get the chance again, he felt like a good roasting, which is a bit unnecessary considering he'll be sacked very soon anyway.

[El Zilcho]

He kept pronouncing Laos as "La-Os" made him sound like a dickhead.

[DA_DON]

Very hard-hitting and honest interview. Great Television.

[dijana]

I like Fozzie and agree with what was said during the interview.

[Victorious]

Yes, Fozzie has a right to critcise Postecoglou but considering he actually went on the program, shows he was willing to accept criticism and not just hiding from it.

That kind of interview technique from Foster can guarantee even less communication with the FFA, very unprofessional.

I'm actually surprised Fozzie had an all out attack on Postecoglou, and ignored the many intervening factors which led to failure, which could be sorted out by a proper TD. But considering Postecoglou was on and he probably wouldn't get the chance again, he felt like a good roasting, which is a bit unnecessary considering he'll be sacked very soon anyway.


What would have been unprofessional is if Fozzie had wrapped up idiot features in cotton wool. Fozzie gave Ange the dressing down he deserves.

[Jungle]

auh man, the first TWG I missed and haven't taped in a few months and something big happens

[golazo]

I don't think Craig did anything wrong.. First what happened is Ange said they got knocked out because the kids weren't that good technically.. And then Craig said (in a normal tone, not rude at all.) "Ok, but as the coach, who has had to cracks at qualifying for youth cups through asia, do you think part of the blame should go to you?" And Ange just says "no". Then Craig's like "So the players you picked aren't good players?" And Ange says "I didn't say that" and Craig said "yes you did because you said it wasn't your fault so that means basically what your saying is that the players were terrible" .. It was just a scream fest from there on in.

Did notice some immaturity from Ange Postecoglou, chipping in with some stupid comments like. "are you a coach?" "were you there?" about 10 times each in the whole interview.

Some idiots on SEN were saying that Craig told Ange to quit but all that happened is Ange said to craig "Ok, so you are saying you should resign, yes or no question" and Craig says "I just want you to put the hand up for the team having a bad performance, instead of blaming it on the players" Ange: "so you want me to resign" Craig: "yes, I think that you have had 2 cracks at getting in and you can't do and, yes you should resign"

Imo, Ange was acting like a little kid acting like he was getting ganged up on by SBS, which was not the case, he was just trying to manipulate what actually happened, he started the argument.. And his stupid comments and reasons for not being able to beat teams like Laos and China (like "they don't go to school so they spend more time on football" or "they use over age players") just show to me that he is not the man for the job.

Craig embarrassed the fuck out of him when Craig goes "I don't need to be in the country where you are playing to see that the team is tactically not well drilled, I have a TV." Ange: "Well you should see us at training" Craig: "win all the training lessons you want, but that doesnt win you games. The look on Ange's face was priceless. Straight away (for the 5th or 6th time in the interview) he says "you're not a coach".

[kewell10]

Fozzie is the man! I love him
So do i,he never sits on the fence and everything he said was true.Looks like another ex NSL coach will get the flick.

[Jungle]

All I keep hearing about the players is that they are a golden generation and stuff so saying we lost simply because our players weren't as good as the oppositions is bullshit

[bazza]

Ange was a fool for accepting the interview. What did he think was going to happen. You're a great coach ange, we failed again but its not your fault-we just arent developing good enough players like China and Laos are, people in those countries dont have TV's and dont go to school, so they play football. The results dont come down to you, you dont pick the players, you dont train the team, you dont organise the team and you dont pick the tactics. It's not your fault, you're a great coach

[golazo]

I can't believe so many people voted yes!! They either didn't even watch it or just hate Foz.

[Jungle]

Ange was a fool for accepting the interview. What did he think was going to happen. You're a great coach ange, we failed again but its not your fault-we just arent developing good enough players like China and Laos are, people in those countries dont have TV's and dont go to school, so they play football. The results dont come down to you, you dont pick the players, you dont train the team, you dont organise the team and you dont pick the tactics. It's not your fault, you're a great coach

good post

[the_Cesc]

maybe Foster wants the job? :)

Foster is technically brilliant, he would be a great manager IMO.
I think he should be tried out as a Youth coach, and if he/team excels then assistant for the Roos, who knows.

[kewell10]

They were cocky in the 1/4 final, China's team was technically and tactically superior to Australia
Yes that may have been the case but the point here is that they shouldnt be especially considering the rankings of such teams.The sole responsibility of these results in the last 6 years has to be the coaches and i have all faith in Mr Frank Lowy and his team in that Ange will be given his marching orders and that Fozzy will be proven right as will his opinion on Graeme Arnold be in the coming future.

[bazza]

Foster is technically brilliant, he would be a great manager IMO.
I think he should be tried out as a Youth coach, and if he/team excels then assistant for the Roos, who knows.

I would like to see him fend of critisim that Ange did.
LOL...fozzies body language was funnier then the actual arguement

[futuremelvicstar]

I can't believe so many people voted yes!! They either didn't even watch it or just hate Foz.

Most people like myself looked at the youtube version and i just realised that it missed the first part of the interview which you told me about in your last post so i regret posting yes now it was a hard decsion because i love fozzie but if you just watch the youtube one it looks like he is attacking him.

[golazo]

And Ange also was saying that we don't need a new technical director!! What's up with that!

[azza]

Yes that may have been the case but the point here is that they shouldnt be especially considering the rankings of such teams.The sole responsibility of these results in the last 6 years has to be the coaches and i have all faith in Mr Frank Lowy and his team in that Ange will be given his marching orders and that Fozzy will be proven right as will his opinion on Graeme Arnold be in the coming future.

youth ranking and senior ranking are two different things

[futuremelvicstar]

Ange was a fool for accepting the interview. What did he think was going to happen. You're a great coach ange, we failed again but its not your fault-we just arent developing good enough players like China and Laos are, people in those countries dont have TV's and dont go to school, so they play football. The results dont come down to you, you dont pick the players, you dont train the team, you dont organise the team and you dont pick the tactics. It's not your fault, you're a great coach

smartest thing you have ever posted.

[the_Cesc]

I would like to see him fend of critisim that Ange did.
LOL...fozzies body language was funnier then the actual arguement

Did you see when Orsatti brought up the interview again after the A-league reviews, Foster put his head down and seemed embarresed. :bolt:

[vichead]

I would like to see him fend of critisim that Ange did.
LOL...fozzies body language was funnier then the actual arguement

yeah he looked queer. i got the feeling that Lesbian was sitting of camera batting himself off loving it

[redda2]

If we didn't lose to China, would we have to play South Korea in the quarters?

[azza]

If we didn't lose to China, would we have to play South Korea in the quarters?

and we have to remember that we didn't look like scoring against China, they shut down every avenue we had

[Disco Stu]

Foster made some valid points, but he went about it the wrong way. At least Les knows how to keep his cool and get his point across without offending a guest.

[bazza]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,20744540-23215,00.html

Foxsports written version of the arguement.

Cant wait for Farina to write an article attacking fozzie and sbs :D

[golazo]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,20744540-23215,00.html

Foxsports written version of the arguement.

Cant wait for Farina to write an article attacking fozzie and sbs :D

That only showed about 2 minutes of it lol the whole thing went for agessss.

[traja47]

Ange as a coach should never blame the players, and they are youth players. Even if Ange continues, how the next generation of the players will respect him
He had time to prepare the team, including a trip to South America.
If he believes players' ability are not up to Asia standard, then he should at least quit and protect his name if he is smart.
FFA will not keep a coach that states the players are not good enough, Ange just sacked himself.
As for the senior soccerroos, a good coach can make a major difference and it is real fact

[golazo]

Foster made some valid points, but he went about it the wrong way. At least Les knows how to keep his cool and get his point across without offending a guest.

He wasn't offending anyone, Ange started it by blaming the players and all Craig did was ask if Ange will put his hand up and accept the blame. Ange flipped out.

[vichead]

no one can have a sook though when all the negative press comes out about this. it didnt look 2 good what ever way you are looking at it

[azza]

no one can have a sook though when all the negative press comes out about this. it didnt look 2 good what ever way you are looking at it

this is what taxpayers dollars are going into, a bitch fight between the youth coach and a pundit. Both probably funded by tax dollars.

I say... for entertainments sake, at least we are getting some laughs in return

[golazo]

I say... for entertainments sake, at least we are getting some laughs in return

I wasn't laughing, I wanted to swing one at Ange lol smartass cunt.

All the fags on SEN sticking up for Ange were annoying the fuck out of me too.

[bazza]

lol..."your laughing...so your being smart now aswell"
Were is Ange's class- a real coach would have kept it profesional and then just leave or say this is enough..bye. Ange took the bait and was brutally bashed.

[vbwhite]

IMO, either way Ange will be gone in a couple of weeks once Lowy gets around to it.

[Simon]

He certainly wasn't out of line, but he wasn't necessarily right either.

[Victory 4 Life]

Foster is the best football analyst this country has seen. Wasn't out of line one bit.

[golazo]

Foster is the best football analyst this country has seen. Wasn't out of line one bit.

Amen.

[azza]

Foster is the best football analyst this country has seen. Wasn't out of line one bit.

Johnny warren shits all over Foster

[golazo]

Johnny warren shits all over Foster

Wasn't really a analyst like Fozzie though.. But yeah, Warren was better overall!

But Postecoglou... pfft, send him back to South Melbourne or something.

[RobyB]

To me it seemed the whole thing was based on a misunderstanding of what was said. I think Ange was saying that the loses were due to the lack of meaningful game-time by the squads. Fozzie went straight to the line that Ange was blaming the squad, and it descended into the pits from there.

Having said that, i think Ange was extremely foolish for taking it in such a defensive way. Yes, it was attacking his credibility, but he was ripe for it. He should have just continually said that he'd leave it to the FFA to decide.

Ange will have to go. I don't believe after all the hoo-ha about Graham Arnold remaining after looking for an overseas coach for so long, and not finding one, will Lowy allow Ange to stay. The Socceroos aren't in crisis, but right now the youth squads are. The FFA will have to be seen to be doing something.

[aussie_ascoli]

To me it seemed the whole thing was based on a misunderstanding of what was said. I think Ange was saying that the loses were due to the lack of meaningful game-time by the squads. Fozzie went straight to the line that Ange was blaming the squad, and it descended into the pits from there.

Having said that, i think Ange was extremely foolish for taking it in such a defensive way. Yes, it was attacking his credibility, but he was ripe for it. He should have just continually said that he'd leave it to the FFA to decide.

Ange will have to go. I don't believe after all the hoo-ha about Graham Arnold remaining after looking for an overseas coach for so long, and not finding one, will Lowy allow Ange to stay. The Socceroos aren't in crisis, but right now the youth squads are. The FFA will have to be seen to be doing something.


I think this team or the other one had time in preparation in South America, which fozzie stated. But yeah youth league needed

[Victorious]

Damn I hate Ange even more now let me vote again!

[Ascoli Calcio]

Haven't seen it- if anyone does have it, please, please upload to Youtube.

It got heaps of publicity on the 90th minute, so I'm hoping TWG will have it on their website.

[Socceroo_06]

Look all i am going to say is, SBS have certain political agenda's that get in the way of running a decent football show.

They are anti-FFA, i thought Les was going to fall out of his chair when Foster said, Buckley was a good apointment, eventhough he gave AFL a backhanded slap.

TWG is heavily padded out with its own goals and objectives outside of it's program schedule. If you don't know what i am talking about, Craig Foster is a life member of the PFA who do not see eye to eye with the FFA. Les Murray is an honerable member of the Johnny Warren Foundation, who happen to not see eye to eye with the FFA either. The list goes on, Branko Cullina from Soccer NSW, Ned Zelic, Francis Awartaife, Andrew Orsatti etc. etc. etc.

Foster is a mediocre pundit at best, he is all talk. He says nothing that isn't already known, is way to general and vague especially about youth development in oz (re: "Bring Jacquet and everything will be sweet"). He knows shit all about how our players are going abroad, and i know this first hand when i fired off an e-mail to him a couple of weeks back. The guy goes to a U2 concert instead of getting out there and supporting the league(going to Syd Vs NZ).

IMHO Foster would only make a good coach if he remembers to rock up to the game with his Dutch Coaching Manual in his hand. If he forgets that, everything will go pear-shaped.

This is not the first time an under performing national coach has been harrased by SBS media(re: Farina Vs Orsatti).

I am all for criticism, but i am sick of SBS' agenda-driven sunday afternoon tripe. All i can say is thank god there is someone strong enough at the helm(Uncle Frank), who won't put up with this bullshit.

Without Ajax textbooks and clairefontain DVD's, Foster is nothing.

/end rant:whip: :whip:

[azza]

Look all i am going to say is, SBS have certain political agenda's that get in the way of running a decent football show.

They are anti-FFA, i thought Les was going to fall out of his chair when Foster said, Buckley was a good apointment, eventhough he gave AFL a backhanded slap.

TWG is heavily padded out with its own goals and objectives outside of it's program schedule. If you don't know what i am talking about, Craig Foster is a life member of the PFA who do not see eye to eye with the FFA. Les Murray is an honerable member of the Johnny Warren Foundation, who happen to not see eye to eye with the FFA either. The list goes on, Branko Cullina from Soccer NSW, Ned Zelic, Francis Awartaife, Andrew Orsatti etc. etc. etc.

Foster is a mediocre pundit at best, he is all talk. He says nothing that isn't already known, is way to general and vague especially about youth development in oz (re: "Bring Jacquet and everything will be sweet"). He knows shit all about how our players are going abroad, and i know this first hand when i fired off an e-mail to him a couple of weeks back. The guy goes to a U2 concert instead of getting out there and supporting the league(going to Syd Vs NZ).

IMHO Foster would only make a good coach if he remembers to rock up to the game with his Dutch Coaching Manual in his hand. If he forgets that, everything will go pear-shaped.

This is not the first time an under performing national coach has been harrased by SBS media(re: Farina Vs Orsatti).

I am all for criticism, but i am sick of SBS' agenda-driven sunday afternoon tripe. All i can say is thank god there is someone strong enough at the helm(Uncle Frank), who won't put up with this bullshit.

Without Ajax textbooks and clairefontain DVD's, Foster is nothing.

/end rant:whip: :whip:

fantastic post

[Popos]

Look all i am going to say is, SBS have certain political agenda's that get in the way of running a decent football show.

They are anti-FFA, i thought Les was going to fall out of his chair when Foster said, Buckley was a good apointment, eventhough he gave AFL a backhanded slap.

TWG is heavily padded out with its own goals and objectives outside of it's program schedule. If you don't know what i am talking about, Craig Foster is a life member of the PFA who do not see eye to eye with the FFA. Les Murray is an honerable member of the Johnny Warren Foundation, who happen to not see eye to eye with the FFA either. The list goes on, Branko Cullina from Soccer NSW, Ned Zelic, Francis Awartaife, Andrew Orsatti etc. etc. etc.

Foster is a mediocre pundit at best, he is all talk. He says nothing that isn't already known, is way to general and vague especially about youth development in oz (re: "Bring Jacquet and everything will be sweet"). He knows shit all about how our players are going abroad, and i know this first hand when i fired off an e-mail to him a couple of weeks back. The guy goes to a U2 concert instead of getting out there and supporting the league(going to Syd Vs NZ).

IMHO Foster would only make a good coach if he remembers to rock up to the game with his Dutch Coaching Manual in his hand. If he forgets that, everything will go pear-shaped.

This is not the first time an under performing national coach has been harrased by SBS media(re: Farina Vs Orsatti).

I am all for criticism, but i am sick of SBS' agenda-driven sunday afternoon tripe. All i can say is thank god there is someone strong enough at the helm(Uncle Frank), who won't put up with this bullshit.

Without Ajax textbooks and clairefontain DVD's, Foster is nothing.

/end rant:whip: :whip:
Well said.

[golazo]

The guy goes to a U2 concert instead of getting out there and supporting the league(going to Syd Vs NZ).

To be fair, the U2 concert is probably a once in a life time opportunity.

[Popos]

To be fair, the U2 concert is probably a once in a life time opportunity.
So make sure you miss it.

[azza]

To be fair, the U2 concert is probably a once in a life time opportunity.

there will be other chances, I assure you

Fozzie is shit...

[Jungle]

This is not the first time an under performing national coach has been harrased by SBS media(re: Farina Vs Orsatti).




Serious? all Orsatti did was try and interview him after the game which Farina was contracted to do and Farina tried to hit him.

Granted Orsatti had written an internet column saying Farina should be sacked but I think if anyone was harassed it was Orsatti

[aussie_ascoli]

To be fair, the U2 concert is probably a once in a life time opportunity.

I know i've had a go at Sydney supporters (for the heck of it), but they did cancel their show and this was the adjusted date and time.