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dAn
June 29th, 2005, 12:21 AM
hold on.. why do most of yous people want Frank Farina sacked?
was it because of the Confederations Cup?
because of what?
why do yous want him sack?

because after the Confederations Cup seems like alot of yous want him sacked.. i dont know why? because at the Confederations Cup we were good.. yes we didnt get a point but really we did preety good.. 4-3 to Germany in Germany is a good result and we probly should of got a draw out of it.
4-2 againts Agentnia is a good result.. Argentnia are a world class team and we should of had another penalty and probly should of been a daw.
2-0 again Tunsia the only match where we were crap in but the match didnt mean anything because we were already out.

having said that.. before the Confederations Cup we hadnt lost a for like a year.. wasnt 11 or 12 games unbeatin?

so why have yous want Frank out after the Confederations Cup.. because in the Confederations Cup were wernt bad.. why didnt you want him out along time ago?

Rob
June 29th, 2005, 12:29 AM
- Shyte coach.
- Plays shyte players.
- No tatical knowedge
- Aust. 0 - Tusnia 2
- Aut. 2 - Solomon Islands 2
- Aust. 0 - NZ 1
- Uragary 3 - Aust 0
- No Frank means yes Zelic

aL3n
June 29th, 2005, 12:31 AM
mate, its not just confed cup. He shouldove been sacked after the Uruguays game. He has been coaching Australia for long time and has done nothing for us.

dAn
June 29th, 2005, 12:34 AM
- Plays shyte players.
only player he played sh.it at the Confederations Cup was Vidmar.. and when you have 6 of your best players out its hard to get 11 good players in the Australian team.

- Aust. 0 - Tusnia 2
yeah thats a bad result.. but Frank did say he was trying new things in that match.. and really why not? your already out of the Cup.. so why not try new things?

- Aut. 2 - Solomon Islands 2
yeah ok tell me who played in that match.

- Aust. 0 - NZ 1
it was a friendly and a wins a win.

aL3n
June 29th, 2005, 12:37 AM
mate, just shows how much u noe about Socceroos, the new zealand game was a oceanian championship final,

who played in the aust vs soloman island? well cahill did, aloisi did, most of our team

in the tunisa game he was trying new things out? did he actually try out milvevic or mckain as centrel defenenders? offcourse not, the idiot played tham in middfield, when we don;t need new middfields

Rob
June 29th, 2005, 12:38 AM
only player he played sh.it at the Confederations Cup was Vidmar.. and when you have 6 of your best players out its hard to get 11 good players in the Australian team.

With 6 of our better players a decent coach would have still put up a very good show against a pack of nobies who had equally as many as their best 11 out.


yeah thats a bad result.. but Frank did say he was trying new things in that match.. and really why not? your already out of the Cup.. so why not try new things?

Because you dont try new things with a couple months to go untill the game against #5 South America.

You find a formation (he used 3/4 seperate during the Confeds) and group of players that works and stick by it.

yeah ok tell me who played in that match.

The side Frank picked.

it was a friendly and a wins a win.

It wasn't a friendly, we lost (which is not a win) and that ment we were not in the Confeds cup, NZ was


* If you want to debate Dan get a clue first.

dAn
June 29th, 2005, 12:39 AM
mate, its not just confed cup. He shouldove been sacked after the Uruguays game. He has been coaching Australia for long time and has done nothing for us.

has done nothin? he has had one chance to make the World Cup with Australia, and what in our history we have been in the World Cup once.
we are not a team that is expected to make the World Cup

Rob
June 29th, 2005, 12:42 AM
has done nothin? he has had one chance to make the World Cup with Australia, and what in our history we have been in the World Cup once.
we are not a team that is expected to make the World Cup

Bollocks not expected to make the world cup. We have to play hacks for 4 years untill our chance comes once every 4 years - we must take it

We now have arguable the best 15 or so footballers ever together at 1 stage in Aust.

We have 1/2 a dozen class players and several solid players. A world class manager would do wonders with Australias side.

aL3n
June 29th, 2005, 12:42 AM
has done nothin? he has had one chance to make the World Cup with Australia, and what in our history we have been in the World Cup once.
we are not a team that is expected to make the World Cup

we are not expected to make the world cup? have u seen what kind of players we have, we are better than most countires that are in the world cup. We should target to make Quater Finals of the world cup with this team. The only problem is that our coach is not better than the coach of my local team

dAn
June 29th, 2005, 12:47 AM
It wasn't a friendly, we lost (which is not a win) and that ment we were not in the Confeds cup, NZ was
let me get this one out of the way first.. im sorry i thought you said "Aus 1 Nzl 0.. i thought you were talking about the game we played againts then 3 weeks ago.


With 6 of our better players a decent coach would have still put up a very good show against a pack of nobies who had equally as many as their best 11 out.
man i think you people are underating Tunisia.


Because you dont try new things with a couple months to go untill the game against #5 South America.
well whats the point.. you have 6 of your best players out which they will be in the World Cup Q match againt the South American 5th place team.


ok lets be far.. most of those players that were playing in the confed cup aint going to play in the World Cup Q match because the ones who will be playing in it were out of the confed cup.. you cant blame Frank there.

aL3n
June 29th, 2005, 12:52 AM
We still had a better team than Tunisa, but out of nowhere the master of "tactics" decided to try our Chipperfield as a wing back, HELLOOOOOO FRANK, WAT THE HELL DO U THINK THE FRIENDLIES R FOR, the ******** uses a major tourment to try out things, got nothing against that but when you don't give a chance like McKian and Ljubicic as a centrel defence where we need to improve, than there is something wrong with that man

aL3n
June 29th, 2005, 12:53 AM
you cant blame Frank there.

what the hell are you smoking?

Rob
June 29th, 2005, 12:53 AM
let me get this one out of the way first.. im sorry i thought you said "Aus 1 Nzl 0.. i thought you were talking about the game we played againts then 3 weeks ago.

Did you watch that game 3 weeks ago?

We were woeful against the 150th side in the world.

man i think you people are underating Tunisia.

Average side with a good coach. We lost 2-0 against them without half thier side best 11.

If we want to be a top 20 side in the world, which we should be with Skoko, Cahills and Brescianos we need to be consistantly pumping the likes of Tunisa.

well whats the point.. you have 6 of your best players out which they will be in the World Cup Q match againt the South American 5th place team.

That you dont try new things out weeks before the biggest game that comes around every 4 years. I thought it was quiet clear dan.

ok lets be far.. most of those players that were playing in the confed cup aint going to play in the World Cup Q match because the ones who will be playing in it were out of the confed cup.. you cant blame Frank there.

Of course you can blame Frank.

You dont play Vidmars.

dAn
June 29th, 2005, 12:54 AM
we are not expected to make the world cup? have u seen what kind of players we have, we are better than most countires that are in the world cup. We should target to make Quater Finals of the world cup with this team. The only problem is that our coach is not better than the coach of my local team

The Problem is out that our best players never play in the Friendly, Confed Cup etc..which you cant blame Frank there.. you can blame the player. so that makes the Friendly pointless.. and when it gets to World Cup Q, we have our best team with all of our best players that, and it makes it hard because those players havent really played with the team before.

aL3n
June 29th, 2005, 12:58 AM
The Problem is out that our best players never play in the Friendly, Confed Cup etc..which you cant blame Frank there.. you can blame the player. so that makes the Friendly pointless.. and when it gets to World Cup Q, we have our best team with all of our best players that, and it makes it hard because those players havent really played with the team before.

no matter who is not playing or who is,we still should thrash NZ, defeat Tunisa we don't and the blame gose to Frank for his stupied tactics and selections.

dAn
June 29th, 2005, 01:04 AM
We still had a better team than Tunisa, but out of nowhere the master of "tactics" decided to try our Chipperfield as a wing back, HELLOOOOOO FRANK, WAT THE HELL DO U THINK THE FRIENDLIES R FOR, the ******** uses a major tourment to try out things, got nothing against that but when you don't give a chance like McKian and Ljubicic as a centrel defence where we need to improve, than there is something wrong with that man

what are you tripping on.. he put Chipperfield at Left back only againts Tunisia when were out of the cup aleady..and we dont have a decent left back.. and also he gave Mackian ago.. infact he played two of the matches at Central Defence..
why not try things in your defence if the defence hasnt been working.. and thats what he did.

If we want to be a top 20 side in the world, which we should be with Skoko, Cahills and Brescianos we need to be consistantly pumping the likes of Tunisa.
have you looked at our defence? there is no way we could be a top 20 team with that sort of denfence.. i dont think any coach in the world could help that out.. fact is we have no defenders!

That you dont try new things out weeks before the biggest game that comes around every 4 years.
then what eles do you do? when you know the players that he is playing in the Confed Cup isnt going to be playing in the World Cup Q match because you have 6 players that will be coming in for that match

dAn
June 29th, 2005, 01:08 AM
no matter who is not playing or who is,we still should thrash NZ, defeat Tunisa we don't and the blame gose to Frank for his stupied tactics and selections.
what was his stupid tactics? only thing he did wrong was play Vimar..in the Tuisia game.
what was wrong with his selection in the NZL game and formation?
really he pick the best team he could for that game and the right formation its just the players did get the job done.

aL3n
June 29th, 2005, 01:10 AM
and also he gave Mackian ago.. infact he played two of the matches at Central Defence..
why not try things in your defence if the defence hasnt been working.. and thats what he did.

Mckain played as a defencive middfielder not a centrel defender, he actually played Vidmar as a centrel defender, who we already know what he can do while Mckain has never played as a centrel defender for Socceroos while he plays as a defender for his club

dAn
June 29th, 2005, 01:15 AM
Mckain played as a defencive middfielder not a centrel defender, he actually played Vidmar as a centrel defender, who we already know what he can do while Mckain has never played as a centrel defender for Socceroos while he plays as a defender for his club
well the way i saw it, in the tunisia game he played McKain at central Defence and Vidmar was also plaYing Central midfield, but when Chipperfield went off injured(who was playing at Left Back) he put Vidmar at Left back

Rob
June 29th, 2005, 01:16 AM
have you looked at our defence? there is no way we could be a top 20 team with that sort of denfence.. i dont think any coach in the world could help that out.. fact is we have no defenders!

- Australias best ever defender cannot get a look in,
- A fit Moore playing reguarly is world class,
- Emerton played his best ever football @ wing/right back in Holland,
- Neill plays regualr EPL for a midtable club and is capable of playing both right & left
- McKain is behind chased as a center back option by a host of good clubs

then what eles do you do? when you know the players that he is playing in the Confed Cup isnt going to be playing in the World Cup Q match because you have 6 players that will be coming in for that match

You play the tatic you have divised over the last 3 years, that is best for your side with as many of the fit best 11 in postions rather than 'try new things'

Richo
June 29th, 2005, 01:22 AM
To sum it up, he plays players out of position and his tactics aren't all that great.
Plus he keeps using the same old hacks (They were good in the day, but not anymore on the world stage)
Other than that he is perfect.... nah :D

Also, we aren't going anywhere, time for a change

Simon
June 29th, 2005, 09:36 AM
I got bored by about the fourth post but what I can say is this: Dan - the voice of reason.

Bluie Stewie
June 29th, 2005, 09:38 AM
To sum it up, he plays players out of position and his tactics aren't all that great.
Plus he keeps using the same old hacks (They were good in the day, but not anymore on the world stage)
Other than that he is perfect.... nah :D

Also, we aren't going anywhere, time for a change

Maybe he and Doug Ellis could get together; they could sink the Titanic!!!!!!

Simon
June 29th, 2005, 09:45 AM
Maybe he and Doug Ellis could get together; they could sink the Titanic!!!!!!
Err... hasn't it already been sunk :confused:

dAn
June 29th, 2005, 11:20 AM
but really i dont think anyone well could do a better job with Australia.. and why would you sack him now that we are so close to the World Cup Q match? why didnt yous want to sack him along time ago? before the Confed Cup? why? huh

Kieran
June 29th, 2005, 02:52 PM
I scanned through that. (cause its a pile of crap:p)
I've come to the conclusion that Frank Farina should be ousted.
And dAn wants him in the sack :)

Richo
June 29th, 2005, 03:03 PM
Maybe he and Doug Ellis could get together; they could sink the Titanic!!!!!!
Lmao...

And dAn wants him in the sack :)
Hahaha, comical genius :D

TheDutchman
June 29th, 2005, 03:30 PM
but really i dont think anyone well could do a better job with Australia.. and why would you sack him now that we are so close to the World Cup Q match? why didnt yous want to sack him along time ago? before the Confed Cup? why? huh

There where a lot of people wanting him sacked way before the Confed Cup. I wanted him out last year when they were thinking about changing coaches.